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    Ribbon bar of Bavarian Feldwebel-Leutnant Franz Pohl. (Maybe.)


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    I've had this bar for a number of years, and decided I'd give it another go to see if I can ID it:

     

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    I can't find anyone in the right range of ranks to warrant a MVO3XmKr that also had a SEHO, so I started to look for senior NCOs with a MVK1XmKr instead.  I found a few candidates there.  Some were lacking the jubilee, and a couple had additional decorations.  The one survivor thus far is Feldwebel-Leutnant Franz Pohl (born 10.2.1884 in Ochsenfurt, Bavaria).  He served pre-/early war in the Bay. Infanterie-Regiment Nr. 22, before being transfered to Armierungs-Bataillon 1 in 1915.  

     

    Ancestry has the Kriegsrangliste, but with an annoying amount of crap obstructing the one column I'm most interested in:

     

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    He got the SEHO Verdienstkreuz 24.8.1917, and had the EK2, the JM, and DA2.  I can confirm the MVK1X in 1915, but not the MVK1XmKr.  The Verordnungsblatt mentions the MVK1X awarded in 1915, but there's no record of a MVK1XmKr entry in any later publication of the same. I looked up another known MVK1XmKr recipient I'm familiar with, and they only have a MVK1X entry for them.  Not sure how accurate they tend to be overall, but I'm leaving that one in an open file.

     

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    Can anyone with access to the Bavarian MVK rolls check to see if he shows up there?  

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    Wrote to the Bavarian Kriegsarchiv to see if I could get more info on Pohl (along with a couple other Bavarians I'm researching).  Between his personnel file and his pension file, they had a whopping 150 pages on him. They were kind enough to confirm his awards for me, saving me from having to gamble on the reproduction fees.

     

    [Insert drum roll here.]

     

    Pohl only had a MVK1X.  Looks like he's not my guy.

     

    I have identified an additional candidate, but it's not enough to call it a day.  Alfred Kloß, a Kriegsgerichtssekretär associated with the 2nd and 4th Bavarian Infantry Divisions.  

     

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    He's got an AEZ, so this attribution would hinge on him wearing his EK2 on the buttonhole.  I'm leaving it in an open file, and I'm going to continue looking.  

     

    Side note about the VOB:  In this case, the clerk who filled out the Kriegstamrolle cited the page number for the Verordnungsblatt entry for his MVK1XmKr, and of course:

     

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    Edited by landsknechte
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