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  1. Full Cavaliers of the Order of Glory - Present Day Market Realities My interest in Full Cavaliers of the Order of Glory (which extends back some 15 years) has led me to the following general observations ref the collectors market for Full Cavalier sets that has developed in the United States and Europe over this period. I offer the following as my personal observations and welcome your comments/opinions. The Hierarchy of Collectability (defined by dealers' asking prices for a Full Cavalier set ranked from most expensive to least expensive) as of 24 February 2006: 1) Order of Glory 1st, 2nd and 3rd Class medals with accompanying Full Cavalier award booklet that includes photo of recipient, official military commissariat stamp on photo and date when booklet was issued plus all standard entries. 2) Same as 1) above but the photo does not have the official military commissariat stamp and the booklet lacks an entry for date of issue. 3) Order of Glory 1st, 2nd and 3rd Class medals with accompanying Full Cavalier award booklet but award booklet is missing the photo, official military commissariat stamp and date booklet was issued. 4) Order of Glory 1st, 2nd and 3rd Class medals with accompanying Ordenskaya Knizhka with or without photo. 5) Order of Glory 1st, 2nd and 3rd Class medals with accompanying Voenniy Bilet. 6) Order of Glory 1st, 2nd and 3rd Class medals with research e.g. Special Awards Card for HSU and Full Cavalier and/or Standard Awards Card and/or copies of Glory Award Citations. 7) Order of Glory 1st, 2nd and 3rd Class medals that stand alone without accompanying documentation of any sort. NOTES: 1) Over the past 15 years I have encountered a few category 1) Full Cavalier sets that also included the associated Ordenskaya Knizhka (OK). These occasions have been far and few between. In those instances where I have seen them, all of the other accompanying awards (e.g. Red Star or Medal for Valor) were never included/available with the set. For this reason, I have not included a separate ranking for category 1) - 3) Full Cavalier sets that might also include the OK since, in my judgment, dealers don't necessarily adjust the price upwards unless the orders/medals identified in the OK are also with the group. 2) The above ranking does not consider Full Cavalier sets that include duplicate Orders of Glory in their make up. While the duplicate(s) may be original in every respect, their presence markedly detracts from the sets' historic/monetary value. BOTTOM LINE: My observation is that dealers' asking prices for a Full Cavalier set generally follow the above guideline. I look forward to your thoughts. Regards, slava1stclass
  2. Gents, In response to many requests, my book is now also available in paperback: https://www.amazon.com/dp/197349860X?ref_=pe_870760_150889320 Regards, slava1stclass
  3. Gents, Currently available for sale on a dealer's site. This exceptionally pristine OGI was issued close to 25 years after the war ended to replace an erroneously-issued second OGIII to the same soldier. The recipient was a corporal assigned to a rifle regiment with duties as a rifleman and later submachine gunner. He was also awarded the ORS and two BMs during the war. Price: $9,495.00. Regards, slava1stclass
  4. Pattons Soviet Awards

    Gents, This image is from a set of 15 photographs currently for sale on the well-known auction site. They depict a reciprocal award ceremony and reception involving the United States Army 80th Infantry Division and an unknown Soviet unit in Liezen, Austria in mid-May 1945. In this image MG Horace L. McBride, Commanding General, 80th Infantry Division, is seen wearing both the Order of Aleksandr Nevskiy and an unknown class of the Order of the Patriotic War on his uniform jacket's right pocket flap. The unidentified Soviet Major General wears the Legion of Merit in the degree of Legionnaire (confirmed via a separate photograph) although it is difficult to discern in this image. Regards, slava1stclass
  5. The following U.S. Army decorations were awarded to Red Army personnel for heroism or meritorious service in World War II: Distinguished Service Cross (DSC) - 53 Distinguished Service Medal (DSM) - 20 Silver Star (SS) - 119 Legion of Merit (LOM) - 321 By degree: - Chief Commander - 7* - Commander - 35 - Officer - 85 - Legionnaire - 194 Bronze Star Medal (BSM) - 40** Notes: *Documentation is available to verify the award to MSU Zhukov. Awards of the LOM in the degree of Chief Commander to MSUs Govorov, Meretskov, Rokossovskiy, Vasilevskiy as well as General of the Army Eremenko and Chief Marshal of Aviation Novikov, however, are based solely on photographic evidence. **Information available in an OMSA publication suggests that the number of BSMs awarded to Red Army personnel was higher. This is likely true since many BSMs were awarded at the U.S. Army corps level and below. The number above reflects only those BSMs to Red Army personnel authorized by War Department General Orders. I came across no hard evidence to confirm that either the Distinguished Flying Cross (DFC) or Soldier's Medal (SM) was awarded to Red Army personnel. This same OMSA publication, however, indicates that three DFCs and one oak leaf cluster (OLC) to the DFC as well as one SM were awarded. As with awards of the BSM, it is also likely that the number of LOMs awarded to Red Army personnel may be higher for the reasons cited above. Should you wish to confirm the award of any one of the above U.S. Army decorations to a specific Red Army soldier, please contact me via private message. I will be happy to check my list and furnish specific information concerning the awarding authority. The U.S. Army Distinguished Service Medal awarded to top Soviet ace Pokryshkin (Triple HSU) is clearly seen in the below photo. Regards, slava1stclass
  6. Gents, These two images are from a set of 15 photographs currently for sale on the well-known auction site. They depict a reciprocal award ceremony and reception involving the United States Army 80th Infantry Division and an unidentified Soviet unit in Liezen, Austria in mid-May 1945. The first image depicts two Soviet officers at the post-award ceremony reception who had been awarded the U.S. Army Bronze Star Medal. The second image is a first for me. The Soviet female lieutenant wears the U.S. Army Combat Infantryman Badge below her Bravery Medal. Clearly this resulted from a soldier-to-soldier token badge swap and was not officially awarded. Regards, slava1stclass
  7. Wound Stripe Wonder

    To all: This gentleman took a lickin' and kept on tickin'. Regards, slava1stclass
  8. Wound Stripe Wonder

    Gents, Another "seven striper." Picture dates to July 5, 1945. Regards, slava1stclass
  9. Gents, Currently available at auction in the former Soyuz. Order of Glory awards to aviation personnel tend to command a premium - even more so in cases of double awards let alone those to Full Cavaliers. Senior Sergeant N. Ya. Pavlenko was an IL-2 Shturmovik aerial gunner. He was awarded the OPWII, OGII and OGIII. He was credited with two confirmed shoot downs - a Fw-190 (cited in his OGIII recommendation) and a Me-109 (cited in his OPWII recommendation). He flew with the 637th Assault (Ground-attack) Aviation Regiment, 227th Assault Aviation Division. The current high bid for this low serial number set is approximately $675.00. Regards, slava1stclass
  10. Gents, An extremely crisp image of the U.S. Army Bronze Star Medal awarded to Guards Captain V. P. Kuzyukov. During the war, Kuzyukov commanded the 101st Guards Independent Reconnaissance Company assigned to the 98th Guards Rifle Division. The division participated in the Vienna and Prague operations and was subordinate to the 3rd Ukrainian Front. Kuzyukov's Bronze Star Medal likely resulted from a reciprocal field award presentation as U.S. and Soviet forces linked up in Czechoslovakia at war's end. Kozyukhov's sole Soviet decoration was the OPWII. At the time this photograph was taken (August 1946), the 98th Guards Rifle Division had converted to/been redesignated the 98th Guards Airborne Division. Regards, slava1stclass
  11. Gents, In the end, it sold in the $2,600.00 to $3,000.00 range. Regards, slava1stclass
  12. ARAB MEDALS -- Morocco

    Gents, I have come across a reference to two Moroccan decorations that were allegedly awarded to an American Medal of Honor recipient during WWI. He was a sergeant assigned to the 1st Division. The only information I have to work with is the following, "Recognition by the Moroccan Government, two medals, Senior and Junior." Might anyone venture a guess as to which medal(s) might be referred to here? Thank you. Regards, slava1stclass
  13. Gents, This Order of Bogdan Khmelnitskiy III Class was awarded to a Full Cavalier of the Order of Glory. It is currently at auction in the former Soyuz. At the moment, the high bid stands at $2,445.00. In general, the OBKIII was infrequently awarded to enlisted men during the war. That said, only a handful of Full Cavaliers were recipients. The real takeaway, however, is that any orders and medals awarded to Full Cavaliers (beyond their three OGs) tend to command a premium. Regards, slava1stclass
  14. Gents, Request your assistance in identifying two decorations on the attached image. First, the fifth decoration on the top row (to the right of the Medaille militaire as you view the image) and then the first decoration on the second row (to the left of the Italian War Cross as you view the image). Thank you. Regards, slava1stclass
  15. Medal Identification - WWI Medal of Honor Recipient

    Peter, Your characterization, "...this fellow was a genuine hero with multpile awards who still felt it necessary to gild the lily!" is spot on. For some guys, there is never enough. See these for more on him: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_R._Edwards http://digital.lib.uiowa.edu/cdm/ref/collection/tc/id/53223 Regards, slava1stclass
  16. Medal Identification - WWI Medal of Honor Recipient

    Gents, After a bit of digging, I have some possible candidates. None of them makes sense. When reading about the recipient's personality and his oversized braggadocio, however, I guess I shouldn't be surprised. His very dubious entitlement to the British MC is yet another indicator. It appears the first medal in question is either the Belgian King Albert Medal or the Belgian Political Prisoner's Medal 1914-1918. In this same vein, the unidentified cross in the second row may well be the Belgian Civic Decoration 1914-1918. I've attached images of all three for your review/comparison. Again, he is a legitimate WWI Medal of Honor, DSC, Silver Star and Purple Heart (w/ 1OLC) recipient. The French Legion of Honor, French Croix de guerre with bronze palm, Belgian Croix de guerre with bronze palm, Italian War Cross and Montenegrin Medal for Military Bravery all also appear legit based on his WWI service. The French Medaille militaire I'm less certain of. Regards, slava1stclass
  17. US Medal of Honor - Sergeant Louis M. van Iersel

    Gents, Revisiting this thread. From the attached excellent image (note the 2nd Infantry Division insignia on his helmet) one may discern he was awarded three Croix de Guerre based on the two bronze palms and one star on the suspension ribbon. To assist us in further determining what he's wearing in the earlier bemedalled pictures, I offer the following. These excerpts are from James Marie Hopper's book, " Medals of Honor" with illustrations by John Alan Maxwell published in 1929. "Now and then Louis Van Iersel is asked by some organization to come in his uniform as an example to the young. He slips on his old uniform, and on it spreads his medals. What medals? First he places around his neck the Congressional Medal of Honor. Then he pins on his breast a Croix de Guerre with star, a Croix de Guerre with palm, a Medaille Militaire, an Italian Merito di Guerra, a Montenegrin War Cross. And beneath these he attaches the medal of the King of England for rescue at sea, and the medal of the New York Life Saving Benevolent Association for rescue at sea." ErikMuller's above reference to the Sea Gallantry Medal is further supported with this excerpt: "On February 2, 1917, while an able seaman on the Olaf Mearks, a Danish freighter bound from Copenhagen to New York, he spotted at night four red lanterns. The freighter was turned toward this distress signal, and at dawn found the schooner English Secret, torpedoed and sinking in the heavy seas, with five men of the crew of sixteen still clinging on. Louis, with two comrades, volunteered to man a boat in the cold heavy seas. They saved the English sailors and the King of England gave Ludovicus a medal and five pounds in gold, and the Life Saving Benevolent Association of New York gave him a medal. All this before Ludovicus went to war" The below information was found in the book, "History of Passaic and Its Environs. Volume III" by William W. Scott published in 1922: "1. Congressional Medal of Honor, November 9, 1918. 2. Medaille Militaire, November 9, 1918. 3. Croix de Guerre with palm, Soissons, July 18, 1918. 4. Croix de Guerre with palm, Champagne, August 19, 1918. 5. Croix rle Guerre with silver star, St. Mihiel, September 18, 1918. 6. Montenegro Medal, Paris, July, 1919. 7. Life Saving Medal from England, February 2, 1917. 8. Life Saving Medal from New York, February 2, 1917. 9. Medal from Governor Edwards, June, 1920. 10. State Medal. 11. Medal from Paterson for enlistment. 12. Honorary member Spanish American War Veterans. 13. French Fourragere, 2nd Division, 9th Infantry." FWIW, van Iersel is also believed to be the first non-U.S. citizen to be awarded the Medal of Honor. Regards, slava1stclass
  18. Gents, Adding a link to Egorka's separate post on an OGIII awarded to a Full Cavalier: Regards, slava1stclass
  19. Gents, One correction. All told, there were 2,656 Full Cavaliers of the Order of Glory. Regards, slava1stclass
  20. Gents, It is no longer available. Regards, slava1stclass
  21. Gents, Last listed for a BIN price of $11,999.00 on the well-known auction site in late February 2016, it is once again listed for sale there. He has increased the BIN price to $12,499.00. Fake sets are subject to inflation too you know... Regards, slava1stclass
  22. Gents, This very nice Full Cavalier set includes the Full Cavalier booklet. It is offered for sale in the former Soyuz. At the current exchange rate, the asking price is $22,879.00. Regards, slava1stclass
  23. Gents, This well-worn OGI (trust me, I have seen much worse) was just listed on the well-known NYC-area dealer's site. Asking price: $7,900.00. It was awarded to a Junior Sergeant who served as a machine gunner in a Rifle Division. Regards, slava1stclass
  24. Partial Hero Star Group?

    Jim/Gents, Availing myself of the podvignaroda.ru site (which was not available in 2007), here is what I can confirm from the Russian MOD archives: 1) The only Попов, Пётр Дмитриевич who earned these three specific awards was a HSU Guards Sergeant Major assigned to the 62nd Guards Cavalry Regiment, 16th Guards Cavalry Division. He was born in 1895. 2) The award dates for his awards were: HSU title (with Gold Star Medal and Order of Lenin) - 15 January 1944 (as a Guards Sergeant) OPWII - 15 June 1945 (as a Guards Sergeant Major) ORS - 23 January 1944 (as a Guards Sergeant) BM - 25 September 1943 (as a Guards Junior Sergeant - his year of birth was incorrectly recorded as 1905 when the archives set up the digital database. 1895 (very blurry) is in fact recorded on the award Ukaz) 3) The award recommendation for his final award - the OPWII - lists his HSU title, his ORS and his BM with all the Ukaz dates matching those in 2) above. A Medal for the Defense of Stalingrad is also listed. You would need to order an awards record card (ARC) from one of the forum members who specializes in that area. I have personally used the service which forum member "Ferdinand" (see post #11 this thread) offers and have been very well pleased. In receiving the ARC, you'll be able to confirm whether the serial numbers of the awards you own match those awarded to HSU Guards Sergeant Major Пётр Дмитриевич Попов. The ARC may also list the serial number present on the Ordenskaya Knizhka (award booklet) you possess with this group. Regards, slava1stclass
  25. Gents, My above post (post #334 this thread) was updated to provide details on the video which Liopa shared. Regards, slava1stclass