Robin Lumsden Posted May 5, 2013 Share Posted May 5, 2013 Since I first saw one in an old book back in 1978, I've always wanted one of these early Austrian copies from the 1960s/1970s. Very distinctive skull and bones. Now I've found one. In 'mint' condition. These old copies are now collectable in their own right. Almost as hard to find as the real thing. Which I have as well, by the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Lumsden Posted May 5, 2013 Author Share Posted May 5, 2013 Fits in quite neatly with this other old copy ........................... Souval ............................ 'L/58' ............................... partisan warfare ...................... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Lumsden Posted May 5, 2013 Author Share Posted May 5, 2013 Comparison with another old Souval repro ........................ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Lumsden Posted May 6, 2013 Author Share Posted May 6, 2013 The 1960s Souval brothers ........................ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin W Posted May 10, 2013 Share Posted May 10, 2013 Since I first saw one in an old book back in 1978, I've always wanted one of these early Austrian copies from the 1960s/1970s. These old copies are now collectable in their own right. Hi Robin, i agree that i find these postwar pieces collectible also. I have a few postwar Steinhauer & Luck Hilfskreuzer awards and an L/58 marked Hilfskreuzer also. Is it correct to refer to them as "copies",or just examples of "postwar production" by these firms,especially if they are produced from original dies,and in some cases,using leftover period reverse hardware ?? Just a thought. Regards,Martin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Lumsden Posted May 10, 2013 Author Share Posted May 10, 2013 Hello Martin. No doubt about it .................. they are 'copies'. Souval generally didn't use pre-'45 dies in the manufacture of their post-'45 stuff. But these early Souval copies were well researched, of very high quality and are now hard to find, so collectable in their own right. A bit like Westerwald stoneware. Original Westerwald pieces date from the 16th Century. Yet the 19th Century 'historismus' copies of the originals are now also very collectable. The GB equivalent is 'Gothic Revival' ................... Pugin, William Morris et al. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Lumsden Posted May 10, 2013 Author Share Posted May 10, 2013 (edited) Detailing is great ....................... Edited May 10, 2013 by Robin Lumsden Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Lumsden Posted May 10, 2013 Author Share Posted May 10, 2013 A later, very much poorer reproduction, c.1990 ................................... cast from the earlier 1960s/70s Souval copy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Lumsden Posted May 10, 2013 Author Share Posted May 10, 2013 Comparison ................... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J Temple-West Posted May 11, 2013 Share Posted May 11, 2013 Thank goodness for the tell-tale catch used by Souval on their post war pieces. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Aubrey Posted June 26, 2013 Share Posted June 26, 2013 Greetings— I have heard Souval pieces described both as Russian and Austrian. The linked pics are of a piece I'm told is Russian, but looks very much like one you pictured as Austrian. Could you help with some clarification for a new member, please? Thank you. Steve Aubrey https://www.dropbox.com/sh/k4j9mofk1axlg9o/uDHxaPzxby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Lumsden Posted June 26, 2013 Author Share Posted June 26, 2013 Hello Steve. Souval was Austrian, not Russian. The one you posted looks like a standard Souval, although the pin and clip could have been re-attached. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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