Poulton Palmer

Your Wulf (1 f not Wulff?) is not on the MMV2 Roll to 1917, not in FR 90 or LIR 80. Is that listed in his Militärpaß?

Hi Rick,

it is indeed Wulf (1 f). The award date of his MMV2 is 1.5.1918 according to his Militärpass which is stamped by the LIR80 III bataillon.

Hope you can use this info.

Greetings Poulton

Oh, wonderful group! The Mecklenburg long service awards are quite scarce. Who is that? We've been working on the 1914-1918 MMV rolls, so having full career data on this fellow (especially his birth information, final military rank and what he was in the Third Reich civil service) will be most useful.

This grouping belongs to:

• Clemens Wulf;
• Born 24 november 1877 in Kleinenberg (Büren);
• Married 19 feb 1905 with 2 sons;
• Starts his career at 15 october 1895 at the 4 kompanie unteroffiziersschule Biebrich (don't know if I read this correct); As of 1/10/1904 he transfers to 2 Kon. großherz. Mecklb. Inf. Regiment No. 90; later transfered to Landwehr Inf. regiment 80;
• Promotions:

1. 14/9/11898 obergefreiter (hard to read);
2. 01/04/199 Unteroffizier;
3. 18/06/1901 Sergeant;
4. 25/101904 ..... Vizefeldwebel;
5. 1/11/1904 ...... Vizefeldwebel;
6. 21/12/1904 ...... Feldwebel;
7. 29/10/1918 Offiziersstelvertreter.

Accompanying documentation:

• Militärpaß mit Hülle;
• Zivilversorgungsschein;
• Mitglieds-Paß of the Soldatenbund;
• Anleitung für Führung etc des deutschen Reichskriegerbundes;
• Mitgliedsbuch Deutscher Kriegerbund;
• Bescheinigung Wohnungswechsel;
• Besitz zeugnis Jubiläumsabzeichen des Preusischen Landeskriegerverband;
• Writing of his kompanieleader;
• Handwritten Entlassungsschein;
• Besitzzeugnis Dienstauszeichnung I klasse, 15 juni 1921; (and another writing concerning this)
• Vorläufiger Besitzausweis EKII, 13/04/1918;
• Writing from the Major and Regimentskommandeur Landwehr Inf Regiment 80, von Pape, date 22 november 1918, thanking all the comrades etc.

As you can see I am missing a few ones unfortunately. But nonetheless I am quite happy with the grouping.

If you ned more info, please let me know.

Greetings,

Poulton

Hello Rick,

thanks for your opinion. Usefull information to know that there is no way to eliminate the suspects.

I like this bar very much with its nice silky ribbons.

Greetings from Flanders,

Poulton

Gentlemen,

thank you very much for your replies and info.

Nice to know the 2-er is from Baden. I could never have found that for myself!

Greetings,

Poulton

Hello gentleman,

I just wanted to show you a medal bar I acquired a few weeks ago. I traded this one against some other medal bars. It comes with documents as you can see.

It is not an offiziersspange but I am very happy with it, hope you like it too.

Greetings from Flanders,

Poulton Palmer

Hello gentlemen,

having a medal bar identified which I didn't think was possible (thanks again Rick), gives courage to present another one.

I posted this one also in the NC topic.

Maybe this one can be identified, or be narrowed down to X possibilities. Why do I think/hope this?

* Because of the limited issue of the SEHO Carl Eduard mit X;

* The lack of other interesting awards.

But I might be too optimistic.

Love to hear opinions.

Greetings, Poulton Palmer

Hello gentlemen,

I acquired these a few months ago. I know what all the ribbons stand for, but can't find out what the small one consists off (the third one). Is this something from Lippe-Detmold?

Greetings from Poulton Palmer

SHOULD be eminently doable-- first impression a quite senior naval Beamter. But having had a couple of nasty scares here with a new generation of clever Frankenstein bars:

Have you blacklighted this? Are the ribbons silk and not modern synthetics (white will glow electric blue if so, other colors don't matter)

Hello Rick,

I have blacklighted this and no glow on the white ribbon!

I am amazed this could be id'd! Many thanks for that! But I am really amazed at the speed of your researchwork! You must be very efficient and I

have very much respect for that. It is interesting to know what our dear mr Schmidt was doing during 14-18, trying to find out.

When you are ever in Flanders, please contact me, I can show you real-time trenches (not so known ones) and we can drink a few super belgian beers!

Greetings from Flanders!

Poulton Palmer

Hello gentlemen,

I am a little bit shy to ask, because of all the beautifull bars in the previous topics, but here it goes:

Does this one make any chance of ever being identified or is this hopeless? (If you never take a shoot, you always miss: old dutch saying)

(I posted this one once in a topic about NC bars).

Kind regards from Flanders,

Poulton

Andy and Chip,

I wanted to thank you for all this info!

MfG

Poulton

Hi, I like these also, especially the first.

Two nice hinges (hope this is the right word) on the back.

Is the width of the first ribbon bar a little bit bigger than by most ribbon bars?

Greetings Poulton.

Hi Chip,

Thank you for the info. The former owner said that the pair XVIII boards were from 18th ArmeeKorps. This seems strange to me.

Greeting from Flanders,

Poulton

Verzeihung, Deutsch ist nicht meine Muttersprache.

Vielleicht schon mal passiert hier in GMIC??? Weiß nicht??

Jeder, den der Kriegsgrätberstätte in Langemark kennst: dies ist ja einfach fabelhaft!

Ich möchte mit meiner Sterbebilder etwas machen: nämlich die Namen ein Gesicht geben. Nähere Auskünfte, bitte PB. Bin bereit dafür zu zahlen oder ähnliches.

Jeder der SB hat von Menen, Langemark, Vladslo und Hooglede: bitte: eine PB.

Ich habe genügend zum tauschen.

MfG,

Stephan

Verzeihung, deutsch ist nicht meine Muttersprache.

Vielleicht schon m

Jeder, den der Kriegsgrätberstätte in Langemark kennst/

Hello to all,

I traded these last sunday at a local fair. Not my cup of thea, but I couldn't resist them. They look great, what do you think?

These supposedly should be Hessen shoulder boards, it came with a nicely framed picture of a soldier in Regiment 168. I didn't have time to look this up yet, but I will!

The back is a little bit blurry.

Greetings,

Poulton

I definitely wouldn't buy it. I think Saschaw already posted it in one of the fake ribbon bar threads.

You were right, Saschaw already posted this one, a month ago or so. But it was re-offered again this week.

In future I will post this kind of things in the proper section.

Greetings,

Poulton

Hello guys,

I saw this bar on ebay, 15 ribbons. Too nice, many countries also, looks strange to me: I wouldn't buy it. Am I right??

Greetings Poulton.

Hello gentlemen,

there are some amazing spanges over here! Congrats.

Here a somewhat more modest medal bar but I was very happy to get it at the auktion.

Greetings from Flanders!

Poulton.

Okay, thanks Don.

The ring of the MVK didn't convince me also, too thin and no hallmark: I 'd better not touch it then!

Greetings Poulton.

Hello,

Here are some better pics. There isn't a hallmark anywhere.

Front:

Back:

Ring:

Maybe a postwar piece?

Greetings Poulton.

Hello gents,

I came along this medal bar. I could trade it against some of my own material. The Braunschweig peninsula medal misses his ribbon as you can see. I could try and find this ribbon and then repair the bar. But should I bother? Is this combo even possible? I haven't seen such a combo before. There is a FEK but there isn't a EKII and no LS award.

Greetings, Poulton

Hi guys,

Claudius may be right, but it is off course important that we know where the dates stand for... For ex. if the dates indeed are the dates of opening, all the 4 lazarette are still possibilities.

I spoke to someone today on the phone who is an expert on Bruges; Jaak Rau. he gave me the locations of 5 German Hospitals in Bruges. I know the locations. Now I should only check where it was the most probable where Herr Weigel should have stayed.

I also got two very good contacts of mr Rau. One of them works in the museum in Ypres and lives in Bruges, the other one is an author of many WWI books on Bruges and surroundings.

When I know more, I will take a little walk in the city and take some pics (outside, maybe inside).

I have good hope of finding the (most likely) location.

@Jef: ik zal mijn best doen voor de 17e om er te zijn, ik zal misschien gaan staan, zal alleszins zaken proberen meenemen ie interessant kunnen zijn voor A.

Greetings,

Poulton

Hi Jef and Claudius and other members,

I know the Vlamingdam. I think I can guess which building it was. But there were several Laz. if I am not mistaking. This afternoon I am speaking to someone who could know exact locations (for Jef: heemkundige kring).

I will let you know as soon as I know more.

When I go to Vladslo again, I will take the pic of Seidler's grave, no prob.

Greetings,

Poulton

These are great photos. Thank you for posting them. I can almost image walking along and taking them myself. And with your daughter along side, that is a great way to spend a pleasant day. (Your daughter reminds me of my own daughter; similar age, light builds, sandy colored hair).

Outstanding that you found the headstones for the gentlemen you have.

I did have a question. With your knowledge of your city and how the area was utilized by the Germans in wwi, I was wondering if you could help me with a question I had.

Flugmaat Arthur Weigel of Marine Feld Jasta III was wounded in aerial combat on July 16, 1918 and was taken to a hospital in Brugges.

Is it possible to know which hospital the naval aviation wounded were taken to? Is it possible that hospital building is still in existence?

Thank you for information you may have.

Hi John en Claudius,

Thanks for your nice comments! I will try and post some more of this when I find the time.

@Claudius: It must be doable to find out in which Hospital Weigel was in july 1918. I will try to find out and let you know, maybe with a picture. This will be probably next week.

Greetings Poulton

Hi gents,

got a day off at work today and it was beuatiful weather over here. I took the youngest for a little walk to Vladslo. Here is one of the four German cemeteries in the vicinity. I wanted to try and find the graves of soldiers I have got the sterbebild of. I took some pics to show you guys how a simple walk of two hours can be beautiful. Nothing really special but here in West-Flanders everything is so close, I just wanted to share this.

Entrance to the cemeterie.

Overview of the cemeterie.

Another view.

I found one of my guys!

And a second one.

She likes to go with dad for a walk.

In the nearby forest, a little blockhaus.

From another angle.

I have been told that this is a former German recreation home, Erholungsheim, like in Poperinge Talbot House.

Here a gravestone of a member of the Marine Infanterie regiment.

This is a nice headstone imo, I like the EK.

These two brothers lie quietly next to eachother, one of them was Korvettenkapitän Boland.

This soldier has on his gravestone the medals he earned: EKII and Mecklenburgisches VK 2 klasse.

Last pic, an Oberleutnant Marine Inf Rgt 1.

I have got more but this will suffice for now.

I hope you like it.

Greetings Poulton.