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Hi Claudius, The HK did have different grades. Three infact: Fur Frontkampfer (Combatants) with swords Fur Kriegsteilnehmer (Non Combatants) without swords, light bronze Fur Hinterbliebene (War Widows) without swords, dark bronze. The 1st two are the only types worn on a post 1934 ribbon bar. The latter of the awards would have been bestowed upon a widow. Something else I have in my collection, and that I am VERY lucky to own, is a WWII tailors shop board which features most of the backing plates used in the manufacture of these ribbon bars. Because most of these pieces of pre-cut metal were finished off by hand there is always some room for "human error" in the finishing process. The ribbon bar board explains finishings, manufacture techniques. Very useful information and the only (to my knowledge) physical evidence of detailed manufacture and construction which exists on this topic. :love:

"The sword devices don't all match. Not just the color, but the size/shape. All of the swords are the narrow angle type. If this is suppose to be the SKM, the ribbon doesn’t need the swords. If this is supposed to be a SEK, the swords would be the wider angle type. (There are instances of swords on SKM, but I believe this was a personal decision for the NCO or lower, to indicate that it wasn’t a different Schwarzburg medal) The devices don’t line up. Does the Olympic medal get an eagle device?" Hi Claudius I appreciate your comments, but have to tell you that the alignment of all the ribbon bar devices are central to the bar. Sword devices can often be a mixture of sizes and shapes on any ribbon bars. As for the colours, these would represent different medal grades? I have sometimes noticed, looking at sword devices in my collection, that outfitters used one type of swords on Imperial awards, and different swords on Third Reich awards. But there is also the factor of supply and demand. Did they have enough in stock etc? Some ribbon bars use the same sword devices on all awards, whether Third Reich or Imperial or a mixture of the two. The Olympic ribbon with the eagle represents the higher grade award, which is quite rare. I have another police ribbon bar with this device also. See what other thoughts and opinions arise :)

I thought this one would be a straight forward ID with the Principality of Waldeck award and the other imperial awards. Major is a good start though :)

Here is a picture of the ribbon bar

Hello Members. I am looking for a German policeman with this award combination: 1934 Honour Cross (no swords) Police long service award 18 years Austrian Anschluss Annexation of the Czechoslovakia with Prager Burger Bar. Memelland Medal Olympic Games 1936 Medal Danzig Cross 2nd Class Italian Order of the Crown. I hope to put a name to a medal ribbon bar in my collection, and hope with the 3 flower wars medals, Danzig cross, Olympic and Italian order of the crown medal this officer can be identified. I look forward to hearing from any researchers.

No I think he probably planned some quiet time after WWI, he still applied for his honour cross though '34. Maybes he was called up mid 30's for his previous military experience? I can't imagine him being a flyer though. He would be at least late 30's early 40's when WWII broke out.

Hi Matt and Christophe, Thanks for your responses. Do you think when he came back into service before 1938 he would have held some sort of rank? His array of medals are quite impressive. Would the Bulgarian medal have been the enamelled type? I have been trying to guess an age for this guy and am thinking his birthday could have been around the tern of the century possibly? Regards. Alan.

I have this nice Luftwaffe Ribbon bar from someone that had WWI and WWII service career. Can anyone work out the service career of this person, age rank and possibly an ID? Thanks in advance.

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Hi Christophe, Here is a photo of the back. Best Regards. Alan

Hi, I have this very nice ribbon bar in my collection. I know the majority of the awards are Imperial German, But the latter of his awards show he survived WWI to be given the 1934 honour cross and also had some form of participation in the 1936 Olympic Games. From the awards on the ribbon bar can anyone ascertain a possible rank for this person? Look forward to any help.