paddywhack

depends if he qualified for it!he might have done something that disqualfied him from getting it or he might have come back after ww1 and rejoined up,his record should show what happened!

can you post the pic?

I'v a award date of 16 April 1918 for the Croix du Guerra furing ww1 but cant find anything for a ww2 award,where did you find mention of a ww2 award?

its mentioned in his wiki profile are looking for his Gazette entry?

great news and a long fought battle!

got mine a few months ago and its fantastic!the most detailed book out there on ww1 medal collecting!WELL worth £60!

i collect ribbon bars and thats a lovely bar!you dont see many MIDs for korea!iv only 1 and thats to an admiral!nice find!

heres the london gazette website!

http://www.london-gazette.co.uk

the best thing to do now is go to the london gazzete website and with the 34 names you have put them in and see who has all 3 awards! i reckon out of those names you have you will get a single name the reason being is that they have to be announced there to be worn!be warned the london gazzete website is a real pain to use BUT it can be a GREAT source of info!

no problem just send me a pm if you need me to check any of the rolls!

had a look on the 77 roll and sadly there no entry for the name you posted!i looked around even for Arthur Bennet and Ernest Bennet no luck sadly!(looked under Bennett to) sorry!

hi ulsterman!got them off and the 11 35 37 and 53 rolls off a member of the british medals forum!i can check to see if your on it if you want to pm your name?they arrived today so il take a look tonight!

this wouldnt have been announced in the LG but the 77 rolls are winging there way to me in the post this week so il check to see if hes on it when it arrives!

iv been looking at the bar for a while and if its real it should be VERY easy to get an ID off it BUT i suspect its put together!! first off the 2 bars to the MM the DCM the MSM the Kings Police Medal the MID and the 2 foreign awards means there should only be a few if not 1 person who should have this combination of medals also as all these would have to have been Gazetted in the London Gazette means once you have a name you can check them all on there as they would have been announced there!also with the 1 on the African star it as a "1" usually means the person was in the 1st army in north Africa!the other thing is this person is going to have been in the army from at least 1935 (the IGS ribbon and medal was changed in 36) till at least 1962/4 as the ribbon with the MID on it was introduced then but yet theres no coronation or jubilee medals! not impossible but id be suspicious so once you an get the names of anyone who in ww2 won the dcm mm and or bar(the rosettes might have been added later) then it should be very simple to tick off the various ribbons on the bar! though to me i suspect it a put together bar as the people who did win the dcm mm and bars dont fit this bar!

i had a look on ancestry and unfortunately the medal index card doesn't give any info that could be used to find where he came from and his service and pension records havent survived either i looked on the census and theres to many possibles to get you an answer sadly!iv looked at the silver badge rolls and he was discharged due to sickness(not seemingly enemy action!) sorry i cant be more of a help!!

hi mike!nice group!not sure if you have it already but heres his edinburgh gazette entry for the sava order!

http://www.edinburgh-gazette.co.uk/issues/13594/pages/1241

and the page before that where it annouces that its a order of sava fifth class!

http://www.edinburgh-gazette.co.uk/issues/13594/pages/1240

and the london gazzette entry!

http://www.london-gazette.co.uk/issues/31890/supplements/5230

cant find any other entry for a sava for him sadly

hope this helps!!!

heres a ww2 officers ribbon bar from my collection that has a MID but not on any campaign ribbons or the war medal(as well he wasnt awarded one!!!)i have seen other bars were this happened!

im sorry but how can a goverment tell ex service some 70 years after ww2 that they cannot accept the valour medals from another country!its not like there in the service!can the goverment actualy stop them being awarded say if they were posted to the vets addresses or if they went to russia and were awarded there?

this is the only P.S.Scrivener medal index card i could find!

patrick stermanns?

il take a look and see if i cant find out his name!

pretty sure its a british war medal and victory medal!

had a quick look for the mic and luckly it wasnt all lost in the move!the card gives what he was entitled to and all the info you would get on the regular medal card! plus theres 16 pages of service records on anscetry! if kev or jason want a copy just send me a pm!!

jason could you post pics of the victory medal you have? be great to be able to reunite them )though hes also entitled to the 15 star but any reunite is great!!)

Apologies for the very late reply, but thank you paddywhack for doing all that research, very interesting!

Leigh Kitchen, here's a better picture of the clasp, still works fine. Is that what you mean?

Also I've decided to sell this set, what would be the best way to do that, ebay I guess? From what I've read here and elsewhere I gathered 350£ would be a decent (starting) price, does that seem right?

your welcome!always glad to help!!! :)

"Impressed" - "impressed"!!! I think not sir - The Special Reserve was made up entirely of 'volunteers' from civil life and up until 1908, when the Special Reserve were formed, they had infact previously been the 'Militia'. On the outbreak of 'war' their role was to act as reinforcements for the Regular Army and as such they trained annually and if I remember correctly for about a month.

The other 'volunteering' element of the British Army, who also weren't 'impressed' during the Great War, was the Territorial Force(formerly the Volunteer Force), who followed hard on the heels of the Regulars, some Yeomanry units entering the fray by the end of 1914.

The British Army as a whole, even on the outbreak of war, with a rush to the Colours, and right up until 1916, was infact a 'Volunteer' Army. 'Impressed' men - more commonly known as Conscripts weren't actually called on for active service until 1916 under the Military Service Act, after having registered in 1915.

you are indeed correct impressed was a poor choice of words!!!they were indeed mobilized not impressed!!

also mervyn iv been looking at Howard Williamson book on ww1 medals and the 32nd Field Ambulance isnt listed in that as being entilted to the mons clasp,also his MIC doensnt say hes entilted to it!can anyone see anything on the MIC to say he was entiled to the clasp? i have a suspicion it was add by the officer himself as the type of clasp is a tailers clasp not an offical issue one!