Biro

I envy the dimension having not only significant family medals, but historically significant family members must bring to your collecting life Brian.

Your son will truly have 'the full package' there... and I'm glad you have been able to piece it together so succesfully for him.

I can bequeath my son a few nice pieces, but nothing like this!

Marshall

What you could find on a rounder pin..... if you were really, really, really lucky....

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Yes.... Boeger & Co. appear to have made Round 3 EK1's - one of the more significant bits of information uncovered recently as far as I'm concerened! Well done on that Chris.

(The VC wasn't unattractive either..)

Marshall

Really, in the realms of historical photographs, does it get any better than that?!!!!

I don't think so.

WONDERFUL stuff Rick.

Marshall

That is a very nice cross, in an AWESOME case Micha!!

You too are very lucky.

Marshall

Last one - heavily vaulted

This was the deal clincher....

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Godet

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Godet

Some of you will already have seen this EK1 marked GODET-BERLIN, but for those who haven't, take a gander at the quality of their workmanship.

Why is it that some of the rarest things I own are made of cheap 'synthetic leather'...

Marshall

Hi Marcus

The Ubergrosse is immediately identifiable by the flaring out of the rim on the left hand 6 O'clock arm.

(e.g. - 'it gets wider as it progresses from centre to bottom'

You can pretty clearly see this effect on mine...

Marshall

One of the rarer Schinkels. A noticeably smaller version of the Schinkel B....

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Hi Gordon

Schinkel B??

That small one is a real beauty - but I've always been under the impression that the straight arm types were exclusively 'B's....

As you appear to have coined the phrase 'Schinkel B', can you explain what would constitute 'B type' for you.......

Here are my two I've always considered THE standard B types - unaffected by their 'bendy' framed cousins..... and enjoying the notoriety!

Marshall

Here's one I bought off Michel ages ago...

Shame about the 'ding' - apart from that it's in great nick!

Anyone aware of any provenanced R3 EK1's out there - and any indication as to whether these are early, late, or intermediary pieces?

Marshall

Hi Richard

Bowens book is absolutely EXCELLENT.... full of historical information, manufacturing techniques (as comprehensive as they were known in 1986!) and general Iron Cross info.

While it too inevitably contains its fair share of .... 'grey areas', is a bit light on T/R era and is certainly a dated reference in many respects (knee flaws ...? ...rounders?.... ), I personally find it a more comprehensive and enjoyable read than either of the two equally outstanding books mentioned above, primarily due to its impressive coverage of pre-third reich era Iron Crosses. The photos are a mixed bag of good and awful, but there is almost too much information.... and that's my kinda book.

Seriously, get this book, read it with an open mind (did I mention a little dated?) and enjoy the most comprehensive English language reference available from that time period.

The Iron Time and The Iron Cross of 1939 all wrapped up in one old fashioned bundle.

Thoroughly recommended.

Marshall

Hello Gordon

Sorry - I'm a little confused by the reference to Juncker RK in the post above.....

You posted this GK in an S&L thread the other day....is this an S&L GK??

Marshall

Me-thinks this is your guy... if not, I'll try again..

A regular Romeo, this guy! - he got of lightly in the portrait department - probably as befits his rank.. compared to the poor guy above who got some defector from the 1950's Disney animation department!

Are you sure about 8.12.43?

Marshall

Hi lads

Just a quick note to say that I have the 2 volume Heros encyclopaedia which references all the Hero title recipients, with brief lists of their exploits etc...... and would be happy to look up entries for anyone who needs any info.

Just leave a message here, or PM me and I'll post the relevant page in this thread for you.

I have 2000 pages of entries in cryillic here which you're welcome to share.

Do I speak cryillic? - No, don't be rediculous - but I'm sure we can muddle through!!

All entries have photo's of the title holders, or in some cases, artists sketches.

regards

Marshall

PS - I use the term 'artists' loosely...

I'm staggered by this revelation as well... how literally are we to take the order of production set out in the chart?

Really interesting information and pictures - thankyou Gordon - but you've rather left us with a cliffhanger!!

regards

Marshall

Nice contents though...

An 'A' type...nothing to do with rank Rick?

Marshall

Some of the 1945 Books bear a photograph of the recipient facing the page bearing the recipient's name.........

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Alas, not this one....

Valid without photo..

Marshall

...A 1945 is always immediately identifiable, on sight, by its flat covers and stringy edges......

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A few years more handling required to produce good quality string from this 45er -but it WILL come....

There's no bringing back the gold leaf however..

Marshall

Reverse

Great condition Dietrich. Very nice.

Mine, # 20638, was awarded 23rd September 1944 to HSU recipient Corporal Z. Akhmetzyanov and bares the ravages of time a little less keenly than yours.

Marshall

Just found this in my archive! How about an 1870 Non-Combattant bar!

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VERY cool.... you don't have a reverse for that one do you Rick?

Marshall