Scowen

Very nice!

Thanks for posting them.

Don

It looks fine to me...

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Don

I am sorry that no one has answered you earlier. I'm afraid that I know very little about tinnies. From what I understand, this one is the day badge for Gau Essen, & is a similar design to the Gau honour badge awarded by the Gauleiter.

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Don

Very nice Pete.

It is indeed very surprising just how big some of these meetings were. As you say, we tend to think of them as small one day events (& some of them were), but as this shows, they could last several days. It's the same with the shooting events, the shortest was one or two days, but some went on for almost two weeks....

Thanks for showing it, I forund it very interesting.

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Don

You see these sort of items all over Bavaria, both brand new & antique. They seem to be very popular forms of jewellery.

Joe, though that you may be interested in seeing this image....

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Don

Hi Robert,

You may be interested in this link from our Fascism in Europe area http://gmic.co.uk/index.php/topic/4330-steirischer-heimatbund/

These badges come in two sizes, a large plastic at 31mm across the centre, which are always unmarked, & small, 21mm across, which is generally metal (zinc based) but I'm told can be found in plastic as well. Usually the metal ones are unmarked but they do turn up with this Grossman mark.

The badge that I have posted on that link is the unmarked large version. Here is my Grossmann version for you to compare.... Personally, I do noty know of any other items made by them.

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Don

Thought that you may like to see a pic of a badge in wear...

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Don

I've no idea why it seemed to be this way either. it appears that pin/badges that were unisex came in both, but those specifically intended for women were in brooch form only.

I've never been lucky enough to find the RADwJ Erinnerungsnadel Joe, so can't comment on that one.

As many of you know I have a host of images showing pin/badges in wear, but it is usually impossible to be able to make out whether it is a stick or pinback fixing.

There isn't a problem with the stickpin in the attached pic, & on this link http://gmic.co.uk/index.php/topic/5140-ns-studentenbund-badges/page__st__40__gopid__495137 a nice shot of a pinback badge. But usually you just can't tell what fixing they have.

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Don

Don, I know you are busy. Should you get the chance back on post #22 the group shot. Can you make out the pole toppers? They look like a spear point with a large round base. I have read of such a design but do not recall having seen one before.

--dj--Joe

I'm never too busy for you Joe.........

Unfortunately, they go off the top of the image, here's a bigger scan.

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Don

Great Info Don. Thank You. Now back to work on the book. Speaking of books, I need to look again in Husken and try to find it. I skimmed thru without success so I will now go page by page by page.

Sorry for my late reply Robert, been away for a couple of days. The badge is shown in both of the newer Hüsken catalogues. Depending which you have it is either (1997) N1 11a or (2010) H 45b.

Hi there, interesting subject ... Just onr question..As i have in the last couple of months staeted collecting N.S.Frauenschaft and Fraunwerk badges I would be interested to know if there are any examples of stickpins for my new area of collecting..(I suspect I may be making a rod for my own back by asking as Im only just getting my head around all the varieties of badges and makers available to me)...Chris

Mijke is correct Chris. In fact, off the top of my head, I do not recollect ever seeing a badge that was specifically intended for a woman being issued with a stickpin. All the nurse & RADwJ badges are brooches. Someone will correct me I'm sure if I am mistaken....

Nat. Soc. Deutscher Marine Bund stickpin.

--dj--Joe

A lovely piece you have found there Joe. I do like these marine bund eagles. Thanks for sharing.

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Don

Hi Joe,

A hard piece to find with that maker, thanks for showing it.

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Don

Very nice Robert.

I've never been able to find out exactly what this badge was for, a member's badge of some sort? or maybe an honour or memorial badge maybe? or just something sold to the public?..........

However I can tell you a little about the importance of the Rhinebahn in the NSDAP history;

Otto Liederley, General Director of the Rheinbahn (who interestingly was the chairman of the NSDAP investigating committee brought in to investigate the previous General Director who had forced to resign) placed the company at the party's disposal and in October 1933, the Nazi salute was made obligatory for all Rheinbahn employees, who faced disciplinary action if they refused to comply. The canteen at the central depot was converted into a meeting room & was the point of departure for the First of May marches.

In 1937 the 'Working People's Exhibition' was held in Düsseldorf & the Rheinbahn operated a mini railway through the exhibition, and the carriages were pulled by an express train locomotive on a scale of 1:5. It was reported that more than 7 million people travelled to the exhibition in & 5 million took a trip on the mini railway.

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Don

Some more nice pieces there.

As a side note you may have noticed the different shape pin plate on the M1/158 (long & narrow with crimping). This was the favoured type of fixing plate for this company, Karl Pichl Innsbruck, & their sister company Alois Klammer, also of Innsbruck. In this case it's a good way to authenticate one of their pieces....

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Don

Hi John,

Thank you for confirming my suspicians..... I thought the price seemed too good to be true

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Don

Sorry, ran out of room.... Here's the gold.

Another fine piece Pete, & yes it belongs here.

A considerable number of these Lienz badges have turned up on the market in the last two years & I suspect that a "hoard" has been found in an old Schützen haus. I DO NOT believe that they are fakes, although I do suspect that they have been reconditioned, i.e. cleaned up & repainted etc, although I have no proof of this. They are magmetic & I do not think that the fakers would bother using ferrous metal. It is just too hard & needs very high temperatures to work with to get the sort of detail we are seeing here.

Here are my three, I still need the gold with oakleaves....

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Don

Very nice Pete, I do like these little flags...

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Don

Indeed a nice piece, there are plenty of "Frau" pieces to collect.... You should have fun finding them.

Welcome to the forum.

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Don

I know that this is probably the wrong forum for this but I thought that the luft guys would have a better idea on this.

Can anyone tell me whether this is a good piece please? It's outside my field. I'm afraid that these are the only images that I have.

Thanks

Don

Thanks for the reminders Pete. What do you think, should we combine the threads into one? These aren't strictly tinnies though....

Some nice pieces Sergey. Here are a couple of different ones:

First a Nürnberg honour pin.

Second a variant of the Badischer Sängerbund, marked 800. It's not as bright as it looks, that is due to the glare from the scanner.

I'm always a little sceptical of badges & pins that have a Swaz added to them as it could have been done at anytime.

And last another item with an added Swastika, which has been riveted on through a small hole. The badge itself is heavy & magnetic so it probably took some time to drill the hole through the centre of the circle. The question is when was it added?

There is some enamel damage to the Swaz.

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Don

Here is mine.....

A nice couple of examples there Robert, thank you for posting them. The Paulmann & Crone is especially well marked & I agree with your estimation that the second example is likely to be Stübbe.

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Don

Thanks for sharing it with us Mel, nice to see another.

As to the numbers, there is speculation amongst collectors as to what exactly they are for. Some feel that they are manufacturer numbers, as in something like an LDO number. Others feel that they are simply a die or planchette number so that if there was a fault on the finished product then they would lknow which die was damaged.

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Don

Finally, there was also a tinnie which was totally devoid of any Swastikas either to the obverse or reverse. This was slightly larger than the bigger member ship badge.

Here's a pic of the three together.