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16 hours ago, Supernaut said:

Hi Gents! I have read the whole thread with growing interest for those stickpins, I myself mainly collect german pins & stickpins, let me show one that is not in this thread, a nice Offiziersbund (ROB) prewar stickpin

 

 

And a Offiziersbund (ROB) Frauengruppe also prewar IMO, thi is not a stickpin but same size...

 

Regards

 

Nacho

 

Hi Nacho,

Nice pins, although not my area as they are pre TR.  Here is a similar piece that I have for Nationalverband Deutscher Offiziere Stickpin (NDO).  Again not my area of collecting so this one needs a new home.....

And here are my TR versions, pin back & stickpin.

11 hours ago, --dj--Joe said:

C, there is an older book (1983) that you might be able to locate a copy of. 

One People One Reich Enameled Organizational Badges Of Germany 1918-1945 By: J. R. Cone

 

--dj--Joe

 

I'd forgotten this book Joe.  Been many years since I looked at it.  Unfortunately a lot of the information Cone gave has since been discredited.  It appears that he made a lot of the stuff up....  Still worth having on the bookshelf though.

Again, here's a shot of the cover & a page from inside (note that he shows an AH 1933 as original)...

16 hours ago, Cambo said:

D, yeah, it is, as I've found out to my cost,

Is there any good books about collecting stickpins?

I can't say I've seen one on my book Searches 

There aren't any true reference books just for small badges. Various reference books but authors like David Littlejohn will sometimes cover small badges that fall under the subject that the book is about but you have to wade through lots of other info on uniforms etc to maybe find one paragraph on a badge. I do know a collector who is currently writing a book on small badges, but when it will be ready I do not know.

Hüsken published his last of what is really just a catalogue of small badges which is often used as a guide by collectors back in 2010. However, the entries are not always correct, the reverses of the badges/pin (sometimes the most important part in identification) are not shown & his price guides are way off (often too high or too low). And, there are known fakes shown as well...

As Joe says, you are probably better off sticking with forums as then hopefully you can get opinions from several sources.

Here is a scan of the cover & a sample page from the Hüsken catalogue if you are interested in it.  It's over 500 pages but will set you back about £50.

4 hours ago, Cambo said:

Hi D, yeah I didn't know that many existed Lol 

Everydays a learning day, 😁

Indeed it is. I’ve been collecting around 30 years & I’m still learning new things. It’s a great (if sometimes frustrating) hobby…

8 hours ago, Cambo said:

Wow mate I've just found this thread, I'm gobsmacked , AMAZING 

Cambo

I'm glad that you enjoyed it.  I always find it amazing just how many different pins are out there....

Tinnies are not my area but #3 looks to be the badge for the 1939 Reichsparteitag.

Welcome to the forum Cameron. 

This is a fake I'm afraid.  The shape of the eagle's head & wings is wrong.  Plus the pin should be horizontal, not vertical.

D

It's a fine original, hard to find.

Thanks for posting it.

Don

Welcome to the forum Supernaut.  I do not think that I have ever seen a CTD marked one either.  In case you are unaware, this mark would be for Christian Theodor Dicke, Lüdenscheid.

Thank you for posting it.

Don

As far as I’m aware, these are fantasy pieces. 

A fake I’m afraid, made in Poland. These never had backing plates. 

Sorry, this is a fake from Poland. These never had backing plates. 

17 hours ago, Solomon said:

Interesting...although I identified it as the Kyffhäuser badge, I didn´t konw, that is was a rare one.

 

Hi Roman,

The badge itself is quite common, it is seeing it being worn in a picture that is rare.

Another great picture, thank you for sharing it with us.

Don

Hi Roman,

Thank you for the extra information & photo. Yes a shooting badge from the Deutscher Reichskriegerbund Kyffhäuser (DRKB), the "Große Ehrennadel der Schießauszeichnung".  Indeed this proves to be a doubly rare photo as it is also very unusual to see this badge in wear.  I have often seen the lower grades (bronze, silver & gold) in photos, but not the large honour version 🤩.

Here is my example, unfortunately it has lost most of the gold finish ☹️.

Hi Roman,

Thank you for sharing this wonderful & rare photo with us 🤩.  You say that Fritz Stratmann is wearing the badge in 1936. Is the photo dated on the reverse to show this? Also, may we see a close up of the round badge that he is wearing on his lapel please?

Thank you again for sharing this picture.  Here is a scan of my badge.

Don

Indeed, you are correct Joe, I had forgotten about the different types of hilt.  However what worries me is the filled in centre spaces, I'm sure that all the ones that I've seen have been cut out?  It is unfortunate that the background colour matches the spaces in the obverse picture so it is not so noticeable....

Not a type that I recall seeing before....

Looks OK to me

3 hours ago, --dj--Joe said:

Nice examples Don. I don't recognize either mark. AE seems most plausible but I wonder could it be FE?

 

--dj--Joe

Could well be…

Hi Joe,

I have two more that I've now had for many years but after my last posting here.

First Ges.Gesch, Æ

Second, Ges.Gesch & the letter S surrounded by sun rays

Indeed, a nice collection of WHW pieces there.  Thank you for sharing them.

No, I wouldn't say that the standard members pins are rare, they turn up fairly regularly. The honour pins you could say are scarce to rare.  The leistungs abzeichen (as shown by Robert in post #1 on this thread) are possbily rare, especially the silver & gold grade (I've also seen a larger version of these which are very rare).  The Deutsche Meisters are ultra rare, especially the silver ones of which I only know of one example.....

Don

Hi Joe,

The first and second pattern refers to the honour pins & are how Hüsken describes them in his catalogues, which one actually came first, I'm not sure.  The first pattern in silver & gold just had a few leaves at the bottom of the badge whereas the second pattern, which only seems to be found in gold, is the rectangular version with the gold wreath all around it.  See the picture below from Hüsken's catalogue showing these three.

The dated badges were Leistungsabzeichen & referred to as Deutsche Meister.  They were awarded following a contest.

Does this make sense?

Don

Indeed Joe.  Just been through & deleted the double images on the first page.

I didn't think that I had anything else to add but remmebered that I have two certificates, one for the silver honor pin & one for the gold....