Scowen

Another nice find James. How many Party badges do you have now?

Cheers

Don

Close-up of the JU52 Badge.

Kevin in Deva.

Some nice looking pieces being offered there. It's good to see an original aircraft spotter's badge, a great number of the ones seen for sale are fakes these days.

Cheers

Don

It's a tinnie or day badge sold to raise money for the Luftschutz. If you follow this link there is some discusion about the badge on posts 493 - 499 (about halfway down the page) which may answer your questions. http://gmic.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=5051&st=480&p=170195&#entry170195

Hope this helps.

Don

Hi Mike,

Thanks for sharing your pieces with us, especially the one with the wreath. I hoped that yow would post them

Cheers

Don

Gentlemen,

Due to personal family problems & illness, I have been abscent from the forum for a year or so. However even though I wasn't posting I was logging in most days to keep an eye on what you were up to .

Things have calmed down now & I am able to spend more time with the forum.

This is the best forum for Political, Organisational & Enamel badges, & I look forward with your help to making it even better. So come on Gentlemen, please post your badges!!!!

Cheers

Don

Alec,

There is a thread here http://gmic.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=11765 that may answer part of your question (post #18). The particular badge you show is the standard membership badge, could you please post a picture of the obverse & reverse of it on that thread as well because that maker is not shown there. It's now believed by collectors that the blue bordered badge with the maker mark "AK" shown in the first post is a fake.

I do have a few extra badges & documents from the RDK that I haven't had time to post there yet.

Cheers

Don

Ulsterman, thank you for joining in, as you can see this is not my area of knowledge .

I'm a little confused I'm afraid. Are you saying that the enamel badges I posted at the top became the Ehrenzeichen? These are for 25 & 50 yrs, but members could qualify after 10 & 15 yrs?

I've always had problems tracking down info on these badges (including in wear images) so any info you have on them would be very helpful.

Thanks again

Don

Hello just got this award document What does the award look like? Thanks Mark

Hi Mark,

Sorry for my delay in replying, I didn't know the answer & had to do some research to try & find out.

Here a some pix of the award.

Cheers

Don

Rev

Here's mine with a low serial number.

Cheers

Don

Reverse of the fake

A simple to spot fake of this one has just appeared on a website, the reverse is the same as the recently found Heims Ins Reich here: http://gmic.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=16439&view=findpost&p=378186 so it looks like the same faker is banging them out...

Cheers

Don

Thank you Dan, it's a pleasure.

Lars,

Thank you for posting this last picture. The colour of the white worries me as it look "too white" if you know what I mean, also the quality of the enamel doesn't look as good as the others. However, this could just be down to the poor quality of the image...

Cheers

Don

Finally a Robert Ley with KdF flag.

Here a Gustloff with DAF flag

Hello Don, sorry for the late reply. Here's the reverse as requested. Do you have any info about the use of these?

Cheers, Lars

Hi Lars,

Thank you for posting the reverse. It's a damn shame that the maker mark can't be read, I've often wondered who made them.

I can't really provide much information about them. I've only seen KdF versions with the names of either "MS Wilhelm Gustloff" or "ES Robert Ley" on the lower part of the wheel. They can be found with various designs of flag on them (I'll post three of mine), until now I have not seen one with a maker mark or without a name on the front.

As to their use, according to JR Cone in his booklet "One People, One Reich", these were Crew members badges for the Yachts presented to Hitler, the "Eva", "Geli Raubel" & "Robert Ley". However there is no reference as to where he obtained this info & we now know that there are many mistakes in the book.

Angolia shows a couple of examples in his book "Labour Organisations of the Third Reich" & also lists them as crew members badges, but makes no other reference to them.

Personally my own feeling is that they were souvenir pins sold to the tourists on the KdF Cruise ships, but that is purely a theory.

Here's the first of mine a Gustloff with Party Flag.

Cheers

Don

Very nice, may we see a picture of the reverse please?

I've never seen one of these without a name of a KDF ship across the bottom of the wheel!

Cheers

Don

Hi James,

Isn't this the same badge that you showed in post #9?

Cheers

Don

Can't see any problems. To be honest, I don't recall ever seeing a fake of one of these yet.

Cheers

Don

From these pictures I'd say that it looks OK.

Cheers

Don

I have moved the KdF related posts to the correct thread http://gmic.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=24526&st=140

Cheers

Don

Peter,

Ever seen one of these? My latest addition......

Another nice piece Peter, you've been busy.

Deschler was one of the only makers to punch, or press in their RZM marks rather than have raised ones. It's very common to see this on their pieces.

Do you mean in the book? 3403e is different.

Nice find Peter. I've only ever seen Neff marked pieces.

Here's mine.