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Medium "b" size, maked Hoffst?tter. I've lightened the reverse slightly as it's almost black.

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Don

Here's a larger "a" size with maker mark H.Schauenburg, Pforzheim. Not heard of this one before.

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There is a small paragraph about it in Angolia's "Labor Organizations of the Reich"

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Don

BURGERHAUS said:

And this was the organization that came after Don's example. The good propaganda minister manuevered and absorbed some other organizatioms including Dons to create the RKK? After this point of integration Herr Rosenberg's influence was reduced? If memory serves. Nice pin by the way..................................

Were the later examples RZM marked would you know? I am not going to hold my breath but maybe another member would have an example with an RZM mark. Thank you for showing. Have a nice weekend. Robert

Robert,

I'm not really sure what the connection was between these groups was. Rosenberg's KfdK was combined with the Reichsbund deutsche B?hne (the National Association of German Theatres) forming the NS Kulturgemeinde (NSKG) in 1934. However, by this time the DAF had already established the Strength Through Joy movement & from what I understand Ley didn't get on with Rosenburg & as you correctly stated, he was edges out. In 1937 the NSKG was fully absorbed into the KdF. But how this connects with the Reichskulturkammer I don't know as the two were in existance at the same time, perhaps Stephen can help?

So in answer to you question the badge that followed the KfdK I showed earlier was this one for the NSKG...

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In answer to your second question, I have never seen an RKK with an RZM mark.

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Don

Hi Philippe,

Firstly, welcome to the forum! Good to see you here.

I'm afraid as a probationary member you need to keep you images below 60kb. I'll delete your above post later once you've managed to make a new post

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Don

Thanks for posting it Jamie. I find the use of the oval plate on all these very interesting.... I'm also noticing the difference in the pebbling used in the Swastika, could be useful......

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Don

Hi Gerd,

This is the membership badge for the DLV (Deutscher Luftsportverband), & looks to be the second pattern. I'm surprised to see it unmarked as these usually have at the very least Ges. Gesch & DLV on them if not a full maker mark as well.

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Don

If anyone is looking for the individual badges that were here, they have been moved to their own threads. Please check out the index for links http://gmic.co.uk/index.php?s=&showtop...ost&p=97916

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Don

A nice pin Joe.

The ones we have here all show differencies between the makers. Not a badge that I've been able to "pin down" yet for my collection

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Don

The haken Kreuz looks raised on the KdfK stick-pin as well............ The haken is raised correct? Robert

It's not exactly raised, as the area around it is not filled in as it would be if enamelled. So the background is lower. A bit like the background on the painted party badges.

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Don

I do not see why they would not have made them, they were a large producer of badges in the early period. As far as I can see from the scan I don't see anything to cause a worry & would be very happy to have it in my collection.

Nice find.

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Don

I haven't one yet as I've never been sure of which type is correct.

However what I do notice from both Joe's & Robert's (the angle is wrong on Pat's to see clearly) is that the pin plate is the same type, very slightly oval. Perhaps this could show that at the very least they came from the same source even if the fonts are different.

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Don

I think we are probably all odd guys........... We must be to hang around here

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Don

Nice looking badge you have there Pat.

This is one of those badges that is highly controversial as many enamel collectors believe that only this version shown above is original, & that any other style of reverse markings are copies......

I'd be interested in what our fellow members views are on this subject, but please, let's keep it civil. The last discussion I remember about them got quite heated .

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Don

Interesting pin Robert.

You are correct in your comment about Freddy Rosenberg's involement with the KfdK. There seems to be quite a number of pinbacks of these floating about at the moment. All of the ones that I've seen have the same fault on the leg of the Swastika & the same distinctive pin plate. The design of the "hammer" & surrounding shape is also cruder & less defined than the stickpin. Joe & I have been having a discussion elsewhere as to whether these are originals or not. We haven't yet come to a conclusion.......

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Joe,

Nice to see one of these DDAC's, they are hard to find.

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Don

Interesting badge Peter. I'm afraid I can't answer any of your questions as the Divisi?n Azul is outside of my field of collecting I'm afraid.

Hopefully someone else can help......

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Don

I have finally obtained a set of scales & calipers & have taken some measurements of the standard membership badges.

As you can see, the Frank & Reif badge is indeed heavier & very slightly larger than the other makers......

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Don

This is something I will be looking into when I get the time, whether there is any visible difference between the fronts. Perhaps with the stippling pattern under the red enamel, or the style/shape of the stars etc....

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Don

Nice find Robert, I know very little about these.

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Don

Thanks Robert. I've no real idea what it's for, an Ehrennadel is just an honour needle (or pin). I assume it's either for a distinguished member of the Th?ringen D.Sch.V or perhaps a prize in a competition, but I don't know.

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Don

Thank you Gentlemen. I forgot to say that it's 27mm across, so a tad larger than a party badge.

Joe,

I hadn't thought of that, I'll put it up for William on GDC as I don't think he comes here.

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Don

Reverse unmarked except for the usual on the pin plate.

Here's something unusual that came in this week.

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Don

This is why I love these forums....... We have all learned something today. Thanks to Rosenberg for clarifying the name & to Joe for digging out another example

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Don

Interesting badge Robert.

I think that we could also do with some help from our German members here as I've never seen a Redo badge with the name Saarlouis, it's usually Saarlautern. I don't know if this is also an acceptable name.

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Don