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On 23/05/2021 at 01:13, Marcon1 said:

Hiya,

 

It has taken a few months but I finally found out what it is.

Are you ready for this - it's a pin belonging to the girl guides ?

So nothing to do with WW II and German fighter pilots.

It just shows, always be weary with unknown items.

That's a disapointment, but it's better to know than to wonder.

Thanks for updating us.

Don

Thank you for your replies.  I really haven't kept up with how prices have moved beit up or down as I very rarely part with anything in my collection.  When I decided to part with a few pieces that were no longer in my area of interest I was taken aback when I was offered a couple of thousand for my Cholm Shield that cost a similar amount to the HSF badge all those years ago & then that the HSF hadn't really changed.  I guess that some items increase in interest & therefore value while others do not.

Thank you again ?

Don

Sorry to bring up the subject of pricing, however 20 years ago I bought the badge shown below for 500 euro.  As it has sat in a draw for since the day it arrived & is no longer in my area of interest I thought that I may as well find it a new home.

On searching my usual "go to" dealers to try get an idea on current pricing I found that none of them had one in stock.  So had to offer it blind & have been offered around 600e to 650e for the badge.   Can someone please tell me if I over paid for the piece 20 years ago or has the prices not moved much in that time?  Or am I being taken for a ride....

Thanks for any opinions

Don

I don't think that I've ever seen one without the mark.  However from these pictures I can't see any immediate red flags.

I'm afraid that it is a cast fake.

Here is an original to compare.

Sorry, never seen one before...

Ouch!!

Indeed Chris, & even if images are printed out, a lot of the modern colour printing inks can fade & disappear after a number of years....

Thanks Joe, even more so when you consider that it is a passport size picture so just over 2 inches high!

On 28/04/2018 at 22:01, BURGERHAUS said:

• Hard to believe this thread is 12 years old!!!  And we have yet to cover all the bases.  Any photos in wear out there?

Almost two years on from your question Robert & I have finally found one!!!

Thank you Gentleman.

Joe, I've never seen any signs of lacquer on any of the pieces that I've picked up.  I guess it's probably down to them only being worn for a very short period of time compared to membership badges etc.

Glad that you enjoyed it Joe.

Here's a set from Landeck's 1941 Kreisschiessen....

Cheers

Don

Welcome to the forum.

A very impressive site.  I would be interested in seeing what else you have.

Thanks for sharing

Don

Hi Eric,

A very nice piece, especially for $7.

Yes I can confirm that the ribbons were the same for both of the above awards.

Here is one of my Thüringer medals with ribbon

Cheers

Don

Hi,

I'm sorry that no one has been able to help you.  I'm afraid that these are outside of my collecting area as well so am of little help.

Don

Hi Eddie,

Thank you for the link to your museum, a fabulous collecion indeed....  So many items that I have never seen.

Thanks again

Don

It's great to finally see what the reverse set up is like, thank you.

Thank you also for the pictures of the "unfinished" piece.  I see some differences between the eagle & Swaz on these pieces, whilst the Swastika looks more defined on the "unfinished" piece, the eagle's head leaves something to be desired LOL.

Thank you again for answering a 25 year old question for me.

Don

Excellent informtion Matthew, thank you.  I have spent many years wondering about it, glad that I kept the picture now.  I look forward to seeing more pictures if you are willing to share them, thank you.

And yes, I can see the railroad eagle now that you mention it.

Been a goos week for me what with the Gau Baden info as well....

Many thanks again.

Don

Matthew,

Have you ever seen this badge before, or know anything about it?

It was shown on an old forum about 25 years ago, I saved the picture but have never seen another.  Unfortunately only the obverse image was shown...

The eagle & Swaz look a little crude to me.

Don

Great to see!!!

Thank you.

Don

Matthew,

Thank you for the correction & posting the "in wear" picture.  Even after all these years it is still good to learn something new.

Don

Merry Christmas John.

Don

Some interesting pieces, thank you for posting them.

Don

Simon,

Thank you for taking a second look, much appreciated.  

Cheers

Don

Thank you Gentlemen for your help with this.  I really didn't think anything could be made out from the image as it is so blurred.  Just goes to show how little I know about such things.

The quality is poor due to that fact that it is a small cropped area from a larger image of boys & their teachers from the school presumably doing cross country running.  There is nothing to indicate the date other than these vehicles.

For anyone interested here is the full image.

Thank you again

Don