Graf

I will start this topic to a less cover Period of Bulgarian Orders

The topic will cover all Bulgarian Orders......You can list Republican Emission medals as well

They have been on market also some questionable pieces that are listed on Face Bulgarian Orders Topic

Here is a 3rd Class Commander of the Order for Civil merit  in an Original Box

On 22/02/2023 at 03:37, GM1 said:

Nice Franco era examples!

 

GM1

nice indeed

On 15/09/2017 at 07:44, sixjune1944 said:

Hello all,

I recently joined this forum and wanted to introduce myself.  I love MG08's and 08/15's and have been collecting the various bits and bobs associated with them, and will probably end up in debtor's prison...  Here is my 08/15 and a few doodads.

Horst

Very nice

On 09/02/2023 at 23:26, bigjarofwasps said:

 

Interesting, thanks Megan. 

 

Surely medals can’t be much longer now, can they?? 
 

 

Thanks from myself as well

That is possibility

1 hour ago, new world said:

I think this box originally had gold print, however it became dark with time. Probably due to conditions it was stored in.

On 12/03/2023 at 06:33, Bretzen said:

May I suggest that we first focus on the early cases for crosses with round crowns.

 

For these early cases, I can identify four different coat of arms embossings. And all cases are made by Johann Schwerdtner.
Of course, not only are the four coat of arms imprints different, but the manufacture of the cases is also different accordingly.

But before you now think, he is completely drunk, I would like to hear or read your opinion about it.

 

And three more photos to look at.

 

Hi Uwe,

Thank you for showing the boxes for the classes from 1st to 5th in a nice display

You might have started with this display and we can compliment with with our dispose.

I hope my contribution helped with your mission

I never paid attention about the different prints and makers marks I only noticed that some of the boxes had dark print like my 4th Class. i do not think that they are copies I also do not know were to classify my 5th Class by Rothe

I will try to look more in details the prints and the marks in order to support your statement, although i trust you with your findings

Here i will try to rotate some of the photos with the print and the maker mark inside

Not all low classes boxes were maker marked Like the V-th Class box

interesting

4 hours ago, BalkanCollector said:

 

Great photo! I'm not 100% sure but I think it's Rade Hamović, people's hero of Yugoslavia who was a major general at the time this photo was taken.

That is why he was awarded 3rd Class  2nd Grade Order for Bravery

Luxury Commander with luxury miniature (with a diamond)

The other model used during the King Boris period 1933-1943

Size is the same as the other model listed earlier

Box size 118 mm long 105 mm wide 18 mm high

Nice items Pleasure to the eyes

Box for Civil Merit Order -2nd Class for ladies

Estimate time 1937 Model  King Boris period

Note this is one of the models boxes made during King Boris Period

Box size 118 mm long 105 mm wide 18 mm high

I wonder whether was sold ..or it will be featured again in the next sale. I suspect that some of the items are not available at all and are used to attract bidders  for the available items There is no more transparency in many of the now days Actions/Sales, because most of them are online  I suspect the buyers are bidding against set price by the sellers not against the other bidders  and if not reached the item is not sold

Hi SteveBobby

Unless Crosses  2nd and 3rd Class with 5 clovers pop up We can accept for the moment that they are made only with  4 clovers as Ilieff stated and other members agreed

Cheers

Welcome to the Forum,

1 hour ago, new world said:

We can't really stop discussions on awards in fear that information could be used for counterfeits. 

 

Fact is that fakers will never be able to make exact copies of awards, cases and documents. There always will be something not on par with the originals. The key is share the knowledge, so more collectors can recognize the fakes. 

Exactly

Very interesting Many thanks Rusty

On 06/03/2023 at 12:52, Graf said:

Interesting print of Prince Ferdinand with Russian uniform and Grand Cross Star of LOH

The Grand Cordon Star is from this Set that was sold on Auction couple of years ago

Welcome

Hi Ilieff,

I share your concern, however the fakers can use other sources to do their sinister work.

Few years ago when i started the topic about the fake Bulgarian Orders and decorations, I did think that this would be a good way to protect he collectors from those fakers. However, I was also aware that those fakers will use the forum to "improve" their work Unfortunately we can not avoid this

Also i have my concerns that the information from this forum could be abused

2nd Class box

King Boris Period - 1937 Emission

Box 255 mm long 112 mm wide 33 mm high

Welcome

New World

Well done

7 hours ago, new world said:

Bravery Order worn by Miladin Zarić looks like last type, Republican emission. 

I agree Also the fact that he got it for actions during the last phase of WW2 ..The republican emission is the most likely one

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