Just now, Graf said:

Document folded

11 hours ago, waldo said:

At the OMSA you can see Franz Dettenhofer's awards. I was with the family in 2020 
and was allowed to take pictures of them.

Many greetings
Walter

 

https://www.omsa.org/bei-uns-wird-nix-gfangt-hauts-zu-was-konnts-franz-dettenhofer-trager-der-bayerischen-silbernen-und-goldenen-militar-verdienst-medaille-fur-den-deutsch-franzosischen-krieg-1870-71/

That was very nice experience

On 02/09/2009 at 01:45, SasaYU said:

Very interesting book. Thank you for posting.

Also, very usefull links. Thank you.

I agree I always have problems for the year

On 26/03/2022 at 05:49, Jvpi said:

Here's my favourite Feldgrau uniform at the moment. Still on the way of completing.

Seperb

That i call a decent lighter

Thia is a nice document that i saw on the internet

Welcome

On 10/12/2022 at 01:29, christerd said:

Sharper Pic of the last one 

Nice groups I think the last group belonged to not so low ranked servant

On 03/07/2022 at 12:25, Ravenft said:

Beautiful box! Great find. I don't think the EKII came with boxes originally but I am sure awardees spent some hard earned money to protect and display their hard earned awards.

 

But you'll find lots of private purchased EKII's in boxes. Which of course are beautiful too =D

Yes those boxes are provided later one at the expense of the awarded person.

However the market is loaded with recently made "aged' boxes that are sold as "originals"

On 16/12/2022 at 07:34, ilieff said:

Next to impossible task, I'm afraid. 

 

 

To point out the obvious, we see a Balkan Wars-era (or early WW1) type Bravery order. This gives us a clue that the person was already an officer by 1912-1915. However, we do not see Cross for the Independence (1908) which would narrow down the start of his career to the period 1910-1916. That is 6 years, so 6 alumni classes of the Military school but we also have the 'fast-track' military training camps for officers which also yielded a number of officers. I am inclined to dismiss the latter option though, as the 20 years of service cross (Boris III issue) means the person was a career officer, as he hasn't been dismissed after 1919, unlike many others.

 

So, to sum up, we are looking for a person who [probably] graduated from the Military school in Sofia between 1910 and 1915, fought in both Balkan wars and WW1, then retained his employment within the heavily reduced armed forces and eventually reached a senior officer rank - perhaps colonel or even major-general.  

 

A large number of people fall under the above criteria. 

Here is one real-life persona who fits the above narrative:

 

Major-General Anton Ganev

Graduated in 1912, participated in two Balkan wars and the Great war. Retained his army post after the end of the war, eventually reaching a general's rank (Chief of the so-called Construction Corps branch of the army). 

Even the awards he is pictured with below are a close match to the above bar. 

 

That is correct nearly impossible to get the awarded person with no any additional information to give a hint

Cheers

Thank you

On 14/04/2020 at 02:02, GMU said:

Many years ago I posted a thread called "Finally after many years" showing a project of mine which took many years to complete. I have always (since I was a kid actually) wanted to replicate Manfred von Richthofen's  Ordenskissen as it was displayed at his 1925 reburial in Berlin.  At that time I had a copies for the Pour Le Merite and for the Red Eagle Order, 3 Class, with Crown and Swords. Fortunately, I have been able to acquire original pieces for those awards.  All pieces here are, to the best of my knowledge, time period original. The only reproduction is of course the ribbon bar.

Richthofen's Ordenskissen in 1925 had a Crowned Bavarian  MVO , but we now know that he only got the MVO 4th with Swords. How that Crowned piece got into his medal bar is a mystery so far.

 

Richthofen original Ordenskissen:

 

 

Well done Collector's Dream

nice

That is a great It is collectors dream Well done

On 25/03/2015 at 05:50, utopis said:

Not to forget the Topkapi palace which exhibit's the highest Ottoman and European orders in brilliants received by the sultans.

I really enjoyed the sultans collection Amazing It is worth seeing it when visit Turkey

I agree Nice EK2, however the priced was pushed well above the market value

I paid for mine much less few years ago

Cheers

Nice

Superb !

Hi Elmar Lang,

The person is General Draganoff

On 30/08/2021 at 06:55, saschaw said:

Just to be (over-) accurate: This AKO is a Prussian one, signed by Wilhelm II as Prussian king. This is not effecting any other Imperial German states' awards as the states had their change from gold to gilt individually, and it might be interesting to point out not all of them were even war related!

 

While the kingdom of Bavaria was surprisingly close to Prussia, changing their orders from gold to gilt effectively on Jan 1st 1917, the kingdom of Saxony did it as early as 1902(!), and the Grand Duchy of Baden followed in 1910 with orders and in (still pre-war!) 1914 with their golden merit medals.

 

Nice and interesting information Thanks

Nice home work  hagahr !

On 27/01/2020 at 11:58, gfh said:

Guaranty mark for small articles: Crab (silver fineness of .800) silver hallmark

 

http://hallmarkwiki.com/images/011;%20France;%201838-Present;%20Guaranty%20mark%20for%20small%20items%20%20Crab%20(fineness%20of%20.800)%20silver%20hallmark.jpg France 1838-Present Guaranty mark for small articles: Crab (silver fineness of .800) silver hallmark

I agree The maker mark could be letters

Hi David,

Do you like to get those awards ?

Looking all the data and  and the photo it is more likely 1914 EK1

Also even very faint I can see imperial crown on the top

Also looking at his  military career it is more likely he got his EK1 during WW1 and his 1939 2nd Class clasp during WW2 as a Police Officer

It is interesting no data can be found regarding his awards More research is needed

New World described the Order perfectly

Yes it is original 4th Class- Officer  Regency/ Republican issue - missing the ribbon