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It is sad but those crosses do appear on the market

On 27/04/2010 at 08:14, Paul L Murphy said:

What has been offered to you is a piece of junk. The centre is actually a British Army junior officer's rank star. This has been affixed to what is probably a piece of costume jewelry.

       I agree with the comment We see those  "strange " decorations offered for sale every day

     That is the bonus to be a member of GMIC 

On 26/06/2021 at 18:47, paul wood said:

One thing that worries me is quite often unscrupulous people of dubious parentage steal photos from auction catalogues and dealers lists of coins and medals and then put them on e-bay claiming to own them. Obviously when the successful bidder pays for his purchase its the last he sees of his money. I noticed a few Russian badges/jetons which had appeared in a certain London auction for sale.

P

It is a very interesting topic!!!

 

I have seen even worse situations when an item is on sale on one eBay site

a fake seller copies the photos and the text of the Auction and lists them on different eBay site

Usually the claim to be away and the item will be sent later

I have alarmed eBay, although, I was not the potential buyer, on several occasions No Response 

Frauds happen every day
 

 

Great Collection !

King Ferdinand of Bulgaria Golden Fleece -sold on Auction by SOTHEBY'S London on 7th of July 1998

Prince/King Ferdinand of Bulgaria

Hi Peter

From what  I can see this one is a 1914  Second Class Iron Cross If I am not wrong the stamp on the ring is "KO"

No Idea why this EK is listed as Star of Grand Cross

There are two explanations either the seller has no idea or he is trying to deceive novices

I like the assembly with the lily

If this was a Grand Cross with similar finish it could have been described as one Seler did as :

"This version of the cross was period manufactured as a museum example, also often exhibited during military ceremonies and State anniversaries, as evident from contemporary publications and photos."

Later reproduction Collector/s Copy Those items are quite questionable, however it is up to the buyer who will decide how much want to spend on such items One has to keep in mind that only handful originals are known/ Also does any one want to have it in their collection and/or for display ..and to have a nice Topic for conversation with their guests

Cheers

Hi Peter Cornwell,

Happy New Year !

Sometimes the fakers intentionally make additional features

That way they can claim that those items are replicas not fakes

Fakes are to deceive the unsuspected buyers Replicas are fillers for someone collection, who can not get originals for some reasons (affordability, rarity,  and others )

Hi Igor,

It is nice, however they should had  consulted us about the Decorations. {just a Joke]

We do not expect the general public to be with advanced Militaria  knowledge like dedicated collectors, therefore the film producers are not trying to be exact with the items used.

"All I can see is an angel enjoying a TV dinner"

I like your description of the  unusual Mark

It is a pity that  it is a fake

That is an amazing find

The Orders of Patriarch Josif are amazing

I read the text

Well Done

Welcome.

Do not hesitate to ask questions. That is the purpose of those Forums To learn from each other

Cheers

Cheers !

HI WtwinVince

The slab is 180 mm long, 90 mm wide and 25 mm thick

The hand assembly is 110 mm long and 60 mm high and the bronze base is 60mm x 60 mm

Cross is 80 mm long and  55 mm wide

Hi GM1

The one with more robust and fat lion is a later make

Buls made two models . This one is the second model

That why I described your Knight in the box as an early make of Buls

To be more precise 2nd Model  early emission

Both have their own place in the collecting word

Here is picture showing the two Models  On  the left is the first Model The Knigh, from the 2nd model s the early emission like yours in the box  The features excluding the Crown are very close to the 1st model  Slimmer lion and finer parts  of the cross

The form of the crown for the  Commander and Grand Cordon remained the same as the 1st Model

That is even more outstanding

I saved it in my files

Now is the hunt for one of those

Thank you for listing this outstanding item

From a fellow collector in France

Yes it is unusual item, that is why I am sharing with the Forum

I do not think it was mass production

Cheers

Outstanding find

Outstanding Man. Very rare now days