Graf

Here is am image of the Order

Yes The central part looks a bit different an bigger

Can you list the reverse and also if you have it in hands -the size

On 28/04/2023 at 05:05, Claudio said:

Dear forumites,

 

herewith I’m announcing that today I just joined the club of the Tamara Order’s owner… an interesting group of a Bavarian NCO. The Tamara Order is made of Silber (marked on the pin) . Maker is Zimmermann in Pforzheim… a real beauty and very heavy too! 😊

😍

 

nice group

20 hours ago, augustin1813 said:

Very nice! And with a nice box!

20 hours ago, augustin1813 said:

Very nice! And with a nice box!

Yes indeed The box is correct red for military Division Orders

 

Regards

Nice Grand Officer Star - Military Division

On 06/09/2023 at 10:59, Farkas said:

After further review- i no longer think the four lugs examples i found are original pre 1958 style. The details in the fingers vary slightly on each design. Of my examples are some possibly fake or from the short period they used Anodised Aluminium (58-61ish) before their amalgamation, and others that are genuine later Royal Highlanders badges.

 

 

I thought that i had found another Seaforth Highlanders badge in my box,

 

but... it had four lugs which seemed too much of a coincidence given the subject

 

So that is what led me look further & soon i worked out mine and the others are in fact part of the later Royal Highlanders badge. 👇

 

—-///-/

 

 

 

Finding 1 out of 2 isn't bad 😊

but shame I didn’t find the four lug badge of folklore fame!

 

In my opinion anyone that said they found one (the chances are...) didn’t, though of course it’s possible.

The original officer version, though almost identical to OR’s, was visibly in two pieces. That leaves the newer post 1961 badges like mine, that have 4 lugs as the most likely true identity...

 🤷‍♂️ who knows for sure though eh... not me!

 

 

But Its been fun looking, Ive identified my badges and learnt a bit which is the point. 😊. 

 

Cheers 

tony. 🍻

 

 

 

Good work Good fun as well

4 hours ago, No one said:

Dear Gentlemen,

 

There is a new decree (May 3, 2021): 

Décret n° 2021-547 du 3 mai 2021 modifiant diverses dispositions du code de l'éducation relatives aux Palmes académiques

Decree No. 2021-547 of May 3, 2021 amending various provisions of the Education Code relating to Academic Palms

 

Décret n° 2021-547 du 3 mai 2021 modifiant diverses dispositions du code de l'éducation relatives aux Palmes académiques - Légifrance (legifrance.gouv.fr)

 

Translation of the "Section 2":

- The knight's cross consists of a double palm of 35 mm in silver, enameled in purple, suspended from a purple moire ribbon of 37 mm in width.

- The officer's cross consists of a 35 mm double palm in gold, enameled in purple, suspended from a 37 mm wide purple moiré ribbon with rosette.

- The Commander's Cross, whose palms are 60 mm, in gold, enameled in purple, is suspended from a purple moiré tie; the palms are surmounted by a crown formed by two small palms.

- The ribbon may be worn without decoration. Officers wear a rosette. Commanders wear a rosette placed on a silver lace.

 

Yours sincerely,

No one

 

Thank you

Superb Collection

Well done

On 04/09/2023 at 20:03, pinpon590 said:

Then, a post WWI (post WWII even ?) in bronze gilt  Maria Therisia order knight cross, with mini...

 

 

 

 

An original one is definitively too hight cost...

 

 

 

A finally, a nice order of Malta, COmmander cross (ca 1930) :

 

 

 

 

 

😍

Lovely items

10 hours ago, ilieff said:

Two images of [what appears to be] a Cejalvo-made St. Alexander Grand cross being displayed in present days. Yes, one of them is worn over the wrong shoulder/chest - it happens. 

I want to point out the breast stars. I don't think I have seen close-up images of these types.

 

Yes They look like King Simeon Emission presumably made by Sejalvo by the King request

I have seen only few of those , however first time  Grand Crosses

Congrats for finding those pictures

2 hours ago, WJT said:

I came across this plaque many years ago from Italy. It was said to be found in a shipyard that had scrapped AH submarines after WW1. It was also said that the plaque was removed from an AH conning tower. Stories are always good but history is better. Might anyone know about a plaque like this. it is 10 inches tall, very heavy metal. Thanks if you can

Regards

Bill

 

Very interesting plate Congrats

On 02/04/2022 at 14:48, Igor Ostapenko said:

Not receive answer from museum … 

I am still looking for one of those Stars

Congrats

21 minutes ago, gjw said:

Hey all, just thought I'd post my DDR Medal collection....got more coming!

 

Best Regards 

 

Greg

 

 

Nice

On 01/09/2023 at 20:22, bolewts58 said:

A genuine example of a very rare Avalov Cross 2nd Class awarded to Baltischer Kämpfer, Karl Zoller. This is part of a grouping recently acquired by a fellow collector.

 

The fact that both sides are enameled and the swords are detailed on both sides and gilded shows the difference between the thread starter and a real high-quality 2nd class.

 

 

Very nice  The difference is striking

On 08/02/2023 at 14:48, Igor Ostapenko said:

?????????? 

Hi Igor This is very bad  I agree

Very nice Set.

Only thing is whether the EK! and the Document have not been matched at later stage

The person on the Document is a very low rank and the Ek1 is a rare clam shell variant This variant was usually made by private order at later stage They were not awarded pieces However they are original

Nice Set anyway

3 hours ago, Farkas said:

 

I had to have another look for badges with 4 lugs... my photo album 👇

 

then i found this 👇 

 

So there is a specific pipers badge.

 

——-//—

 

Also i found a few examples of 4 lug badges, some old, some new & some cast and surely some not original but it would seem to me there is the likelihood of genuine 4 lug badges.

 

A few examples...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Cheers

tony

 

 

PS the weird thing is I think i might have one of the 1900-58 badges 🤷‍♂️ I’ll have a rummage this week...

 

Nice work Tony

On 02/09/2023 at 05:27, Stogieman said:

Hi Alex, not sure if there’s a Scharffenburg mark but this mark is on the suspension ring, hopefully I can make sense of it when it gets here next week.

Silber - Silver 

10 minutes ago, graham said:

Silber (Silver)

I agree Cheers

7 hours ago, saxcob said:

Duchy of Nassau, Waterloo Medal

Excellent Document Congrats

On 27/08/2023 at 21:44, Igor Ostapenko said:

👍

Hi Igor Excellent photos Thanks

On 27/08/2023 at 21:52, Igor Ostapenko said:

Size of “russian” crosses 

Hi Igor Superb Collection Congrats

On 29/08/2023 at 02:07, augustin1813 said:

Sweden: nominations in the Order of the Sword signed by Charles-Jean (Bernadotte) :

Very nice and rare

On 22/08/2023 at 19:19, Graf said:

The seller added additional pictures.

i am still not convinced that this is an original piece, although there is a bit of a bidding and he will get good price

Judge for yourselves

I am glad that people who bid realized  that this is a copy The final price on eBay was 600 Euro That is OK

i was afraid that there will be last minute mad bidding and someone will depart with significant amount of money

It is good collectors are getting the message and/or read our posts

I hope the Seller will learn something as well

2 hours ago, ilieff said:

I would have to agree with Alex about the cord and the jewelled order. 

 

I think I have seen other photos where King Ferdinand I wears an order, suspended from a generic thin metal chain or cord. It was probably due to ease of wearing (due to the weight of the official metal chain) but the above is clearly a studio portrait and I don't see a reason for the cord to be used.  

Nice observation Yes we will wonder about those unusual way of wearing the Decorations. We only can speculate

It could be de the jewel par sent for a repair or snapped from the Order Only the King would have known

On 25/08/2023 at 17:16, No one said:

Dear Gentlemen,

 

It's only in 1955 that the "Palmes Académiques" became an order. Prior 1955 it was called "Palmes Universitaires and/ or Palmes Académiques". Interesting reading: Ordre des Palmes académiques - Wikipedia

 

Translation of part the French page (Ordre des Palmes académiques — Wikipédia (wikipedia.org)😞

 

"The insignia of this order have evolved over time:

 

Originally, the badge represented an olive branch and a laurel branch intertwined. The laurel branch is reminiscent of the laurel wreath worn by victors in Antiquity, but also by poets; as for the olive branch, it evokes peace, but the winners of the ancient Olympic Games also wore an olive crown:

 

-under the First Empire (1808), the palms are woven in purple thread on a black felt background about 10 cm high, sewn onto the robes of professors of imperial and then royal universities (three variants listed);

 

- under the Second Empire, the palms are woven on a ribbon of black or purple moire — which still earns them their name of purple decoration and in the order that of the purple Legion — about 5 cm high, many variants exist ; they are in silver or gold wire for officers of public instruction and in polychrome wire for academy officers; from 1866 the palms were made of metal and suspended from a plain purple ribbon for Academy officers and a ribbon with a rosette for Officers of Public Instruction. They are then in silver for the officers of the academy and in vermeil, even in gold, for the officers of public instruction. Generally the olives are represented in red enamel, more rarely in green enamel.

 

- under the Third Republic, the model adopted in 1866 was maintained.

 

Since 1955, the badge has been made up of two identical branches, rather laurel (the olives have disappeared), based on a model designed by Raymond Subes. The ranks of knight, officer and commander were then created:

- knight's insignia are usually silver (sometimes bronze or silver vulgar metal) suspended from a plain purple ribbon;

 

- officer's insignia are generally in vermeil (more rarely in gold or even in bronze or vulgar gold metal) suspended from a purple ribbon fitted with a rosette;

 

- Commander's insignia are generally in vermeil (more rarely in gold or even in bronze or vulgar gold metal) suspended from a tie worn around the neck."

 

Yours sincerely,

No one

 

 

Very nice information  Thanks

He came from one of the richest families in Europe.

Very extravagant and liked to enjoy life After he became the Prince of Bulgaria His family spend fortune to turn Sofia into a "modern' European city During his time many luxury Orders and Decorations were awarded He got many in return.

His son King Boris was much more modest

Sadly many of his Decorations have been sold by his Grand son the current  King Simeon through some Auction Houses

On 24/08/2023 at 16:10, Alex K said:

Hi all, ive been reading this thread with interest, he was certainly flamboyant! 

This image has been posted before and ive been studying it closely, think ive found a question, regarding his golden fleece, based on my assessment of the image, he appears to be wearing only the bottom part of the decoration suspended from what i can see as heing black string!, secondly, the fleece itself has the appearance (to me) as a bejewelled version, not the typical type he was awarded, does anyobe know if he had a jewelled example? 

Regards

 

Edit, i think ive answered my own question 😄

 

Very nice observation and research work Thanks

Prince/King Ferdinand liked all those luxury decorations he was giving them to other Royals and he was getting many in return It is good to be a King