Graf

Hi,

I just got this litle LH with this typical "Cent Gardes" features

It is Gold, although not marked

Only 13 mm wide

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Graf

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Graf

Hi,

I just got this litle LH with this typical "Cent Gardes" features

It is Gold, although not marked

Only 13 mm wide

Best

Graf

Hi Cartaphilus,

It is OK as long as the price is as for 1915 Model -30-40 Euro

Also it is best if the 1915 Model comes with Awarding Document as shown above. The Document is more expensive then the Cross

1941 Model demands 10 times higher price and is very rare.

Besy Regards

Graf

Hi Cartaphilus,

During the first stages of WW2 the 1915 Model had been awarded to Bulgarian andGerman Military personel.

In the late stages of WW2 the 1941 Model was awarded

The quality of the 1941 Model is much better then the previuos models.

It is believed that only very few pieces were made by German maker

Also 1941 Model was awarded only to german Personel , no one Bulgarian is belived to be awarded this model

This is Group of Soldiers Cross, which belonged to a German Soldier

The Cross is 4th Class 1915 Model with awarding Document dated 1942

Best Regards

Graf

Hi Auseklis,

This is a very nice case for the 3rd class 2nd Grade Order for Bravery

It is very rare one from the late Prince Alexander period around 1886-1887. The Bravery Order which coresponds to the case is also very rare

Next models have black or dark green coloured cases -also with Prince Alexander monogram, however they are bigger and not rounded like this one

Good luck in getting the Order.

Here are some pictures for you:

The First one is with the Order you have to get..... I am still chasing it

Second is your case compared with the later model case

Third is with this case with the next model 3rd Class 2nd Grade Order for Bravery with the corresponding minature

Regards

Graf

Nice General Kepi

I agee Fench Generals uniforms were beatiful

Here is a nice General Division assembly from my collection

Regards

Graf

Dear Members,

Jut to let you know that i am selling Two Medals of the Order of the Crown on Ebay.UK

Silver and Bronze -Both Flamish and French Text

Graf

Dear Members,

I recently obtained a nice 1914 EK2 with mark "J" on the ring

According to some information this mark is for the Berlin Firm C,E. Juncker.

Can you help me with any information

Regards

Graf

Hi Guy,

Those are better pictures

I took picture of the crowns of the Knigt Class and the Commander ( French marks for Silver -Boar head and Maker AB&Co))

You can see the similarities in crowns, which can be more proof that all those Luxary made L1 Orders could by French maker(s)

Regards

Graf

Hi Jaeger7,

It is obvious that there are two pieces . The back cover disc is missing

The Order is not fake.

It has the features of the low quality made Regency/republican Models - at the end of WW2 and after

During this period Bulgaria switched sides and went to War with Germany, later became a Peoples Republic.

Therefore it is very unlikely this to be replacment piece.

During WW2 -1941 Model was made in Germany and the qality was extremly good. It is very likely that the FirmC.F. Zimmermann, Pforzheim, because quite a good number of damaged Bulgarian items were recovered from the damaged by fire factory of this firm.

After Bulgaria switched the sides and went to war with Germany the Orders was made by Bulgarian private makers and the quality droped significantly.

I suspect because the 1941 Model demands beter prices, that someonr tried to "upgrade" a republican Model to WW2 one.

Unfortunately, thre are few pieces at the moment on the market of "upgraded" bulgarian Orders This topic was discussed in the Forum ''"fake Bulgarian Orders"

...or as you said the original 1941 Order was demaged and the central part was adapted to a republican Model, however i doubt that it was done by the German Officer.

This is just my opinion ..what is the truth.. only the person who did it knows

Best

Graf

This was Restoration Period

Here is the Second Empire

Graf

Hi Guy,

I also suspected that it was made by fFrench Maker

It is similar design as the "Cent Gardes" of French LOH

Graf

Hi,

I do not like to upset you however it looks someone has tried to created history.

The 1941 Models were made in Germany and the quality was excellent. Most of them were given to German Officers

This one looks like a Republican issue -Bulgarian maker and with added central ring (with 1941)

Compare this one with the New World posting.

There is something that bothers me about this Order Sorry.!

Graf

Hi Guy,

Thank you for showing the Military devision.

I have seen this cross on the top cover (and also inside) of the '175 Jaar Leopoldsorde & de Belgische Nationale Orden"

In this book is stated that the maker is unknown.

Is Wolfers suspected of making it?

It is made similar as the Luxury Models of France Legion of Honour

Do you think the Luxary L1 could be French made?

Here are two Commanders made by the French Maker Bertrand

Best

Graf

Hi Iver,

Well done

It is a very nice old miniature of the 4th Class 2nd Grade

It is rare because it is double sided

Also it looks like it is from the first Emmiassion with "7 dots" This emmission did not have 1st Grade of the 4th Class

Check for any silver or maker marks - on the ring

Regards

Graf

Hi Guys,

This is my last addition to my L1 collection

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Hi,

This is small contribution to the topic

4-th Class 2-nd Grade Set -Order, Box and Document to German Officer

Graf

Hi Andreas,

This is 6-th Class of The Order of St Alexander with swords in the middle without a crown .... missing ribbon (Red, Triangular Austian type)

This is war time -Military Division (the swords in the middle) -Perhaps was awarded to the German Officer during WW2

Because it is 6-th Class without crown the German Officer was with a low Rank.

Since you got it with a group of other odrers form WW2 period -it is very likely King Boris III Model 1918-1943

It is very likely by German or Austrian manifacturer

I cannot see any Marks therfore it is very likely silvered base metal

Regards

Graf

Hi,

Just small update on the topic

I do not know whether I am lucky or simply more persistent on my search..however I have already 4 Bronze medals 2 French only and 2 Bilingual

You can see differend shades of bronze and different form of th crowns

Best

Graf

Hi Andreas,

You might be right about the Rank of the Officer I will make a close up picture of the shoulder boards.

The handwritting is not a signature ..it says STALINGRAD.

Here is one more Document for Officer Class (4th Class 2nd Grade) to a German Officer

Regards

Graf

Regarding the Miniatures of this Order They are relatively common in the lower Classes and more rare in the higher Classes.

Yours is double sided and of very good quality, which makes it very rare.

I have few Miniatures, however all are one sided

Graf

Hi Dedehansen,

Did you get any Documents wwith this Group ?

New World gave a very nice information regarding 1941 Model of The Bulgarian Order for Bravery

Usually the Geman Officers and Sodiers had the Order given together with Docunent in German

This 3-rd Class 2-nd Grade maght have been given to a High ranking Officer -Oberst or General

During this period the highest given award was 3rd Class 1st Grade

Here are some examples

-3rd Class 1st Grade with a photo of German general Wearing it Sorry no Docunent or a name

4th Class Sodiers Cross with the Awarding Document to a German Sodier.

Graf

Hi,

I left my opinion on the tread Fake Bulgarian Orders

it is OK To be 100% sure run the "needle test' as i described it on the other tread

Regards

Graf

Hi,

I can not see anything wrong with the Order

It is very nice 3rd Class -Commander - King Boris Model 1918-1942/3

If you want to be sure it is better to do the "needle test" > Be gentle. and do not try to run the needle along the surface to avoid danage ( sometimes the enamel is protected by a very thin fine layer of coating)

With a fine neddle try to penetrate the green, white and the red enamesl The fake modern enamel is soft and the needle will sink very easy.

I am sure the enamel is OK.

This is picture of my Commander from this Model

If the test is negative i.e, Good then Congrats on the nice buy.

Regards

Graf

Hi Ralph A,

Thank you

Do you think it is made by S & L

Regards

Graf