Graf

9 hours ago, ilieff said:

Congrats, Graf

The ribbon colours/alignment for this medal are somewhat similar to that of the "Order of 9 September 1944" (1st class) of the socialist era, but the silky moire appearance of the original material would be difficult to replicate. Plus, the ribbon widths are probably different, too. 

 

PS: the ribbon you have secured appears to have slightly different colour width ratios, when compared to the medal with original ribbon you shared earlier 🤔

Hi Ilieff,

Thank for the feedback Yes it will be difficult to match 100% the original one

However it is better then nothing

10 hours ago, Carlo said:

HI,
yes I mean 2.5 meters, but I prefer not to cut it.
It has arrived today in this form and I don't want to change it.

Fair decision 2.5 meters That is 100@ factory left over and was discovered at some stage  Congrats

7 hours ago, Farkas said:

I don’t think you’re having probs, this is how I see it Mike, 👍

 

 

Thats a fantastic set you’ve got there,

I love it all from start to finish.
DSO, MVO,

IGS, 2 bars

QSA, 2 bars

WW1 STAR, BWM & AVM TRIO (MID)

& pair of (lovely looking) Russian Orders.

 

I’d never heard of an MVO for some reason, I just read up a little, now I know.

Also just been reading the piece on AngloBoerWar.com , an interesting varied career reflected by the 25 years of recognition on his bar.

 

I doubt there is another set quite like it.

 

Congratulations 🍻

 

tony

I agree Fantastic Set

Great news. I managed to secure a very old stock original ribbon

8 hours ago, Farkas said:

 

Such an interesting post it seems almost petty pointing it out but i’m guessing you meant 25 centimetres long?

 

if not... can i have a piece please 🤞

 

Cheers

tony 🍻

Yes 2.5 meters is a very long This could a a left over from the maker The condition is also superb

The width, perhaps indicates that it was designed for a bar similar Enzo listed earler

On 11/10/2023 at 19:17, Elmar Lang said:

It is a nice combination ribbon from the immediate post-1849 years, to be mounted on a then also called as "Mode-Spange", where usually on the bar the highest order was presented as an enameled miniature, placed to the centre of the bar itself.

 

This bar shows the Imperial Austrian Order of the Iron Crown; the French Order of the Legion of Honour (from the Restauration, presumably), the Metallenes Armeekreuz a.k.a. "Kanonenkreuz" and the "Militärdienstzeichen für Offiziere". this last one, introduced in 1849.

 

Just to add a little pictorial addition to this discussion, I would like to post the image of an Austrian "Mode-Spange" with combined ribbon, from my own collection. The reverse is struck with maker's and gold marks for the year 1805.

 

All the best,

 

Enzo

Thank you for the interesting inforamation

2 hours ago, ruiz said:

WWII Bulgarian Infantry general' s badge

Very nice Cograts

On 10/10/2023 at 10:43, Farkas said:

 

In the pic below it does look like there are 2 separate parts & I can’t make out any surround to the swastika badge in the original photo, both of which support ☝️

 

 

tony 🍻

Nice items Tony

On 09/10/2023 at 07:58, Carlo said:

Greetings,
I want to present to you an article that has given me a lot to think about lately, it is a combined ribbon with 4 decorations.

I know that combined ribbons existed and were used, what makes me think is the combination of decorations to which the individual ribbons belong.
Order of the Iron Crown, Order of Franz Joseph, Kanonenkreuz, Service Cross.

The ribbon that makes me think is that of the kanonenkreuz, which could have been combined with that of the order of the iron crown, but I have some doubts about the other two.

The ribbon is made of very fine silk, which makes me think it is quite old, but other than that I have no other information.
If anyone has any ideas or information it would be greatly appreciated.

Yes combined ribbon existed, mainly fo the miniature medals and decorations They are rare

Very interesting ribbon / What is the width

Here is one of mine double french ribbons I have seen combined ribbons for more then two medals and decorations

Regards

I have recently added to my collection this lovely medal

Sadly no ribbon Since the medal was given in 1901 it is very unlikely to get an original ribbon

I am trying to figure out what other ribbon could be as close as possible to the original one

The medals were awarded to the participants in the April 1876 insurrection against the Turks  in Special ceremony in one of the cities that took  part -Panagiurishte

The number of awarded medals is unknown -at least for me

3 minutes ago, Farkas said:

 

I agree, 

i’ve been looking into these marks for at least 6 months now. It might be time to accept there is a reason these marks are still considered unidentified.

 

There are numerous businesses with the correct initials, unfortunately the ‘unknown’ KTK marks are likely not even regular makers marks, which would be distinguishable from each other.

 

Also, it appears, there is the use of metalworks and others not usually involved in medal making to consider.

 

tony 🍻

 

Search for GW, nearly 6 months. 👇

 

Nice work Tony

On 04/10/2023 at 08:04, bigjarofwasps said:

• Awards with His Majesty The King’s image in use from the beginning of October.
• The new designs are presented on almost 50 different awards.
• Images bear the inscription Charles the Third, by the Grace of God, King, Defender of the Faith.

The images - known as effigies - will be used for almost 50 awards, including The King’s Gallantry Medal, the Royal Red Cross and a range of long service awards.

The new images will replace previous designs which featured an image of Her Late Majesty Queen Elizabeth II.

The new designs feature six different depictions of The King along with the inscription CHARLES III DEI GRATIA REX FID DEF - meaning Charles the Third, by the Grace of God, King, Defender of the Faith.

Three of the images show The King wearing the uniforms of the Admiral of the Fleet (Royal Navy), Field Marshal (Army) and Marshal of the Royal Air Force (RAF). On these medals, The King faces left in order for His medal bar to be seen.

New Royal effigies are announced when a Monarch ascends to the throne and are used on official medals and awards forming part of the UK’s honours system.

Her Late Majesty’s effigy has continued to be in use for medals and awards which recognised service given during Her reign.

Thank for all this information

On 13/09/2023 at 15:13, Rusty Greaves said:

I have two 1st Class Grand Cordon examples of the Order of Ismail to illustrate today. The first example comes from an upcoming September 23, 2023 auction (Auction 57, day 2, Lot 1280) by La Galerie Numismatique, archived on the invaluable.com website (https://www.invaluable.com/auction-lot/the-order-of-ismail-1280-c-7c0441d8e8). 

 

 

Above is a low-resolution image of the sash with the sash badge and breast star of this Grand Cordon set. The only useful information in the auction description is that the breast star is identified as measuring 81mm in diameter. That, and the configuration of gold fruit dots in the wreath of the breast star, clearly indicate this is a 1st Class versions of this award. There is apparently no case nor documentation associated with this Grand Cordon set. It is unclear whether the ends of the sash exhibit pinking or not. The view of the end of the sash in the above photo is blocked by the placement of the breast star. Additionally, the folding of the sash and the odd knotting above the sash badge makes the bow of the decorative knot invisible, so whether that is pinked also cannot be determined (pinking is cutting the ends of the sash and bow with a zig-zag bladed scissors or other cutting device, the zig-zag reduces the frequency that the ends of the sash and bow may unravel).

 

 

Above is a moderate-low-resolution image of the sash badge and breast star of this set. The wreath is the normal Lattes configuration.The date hallmark appears to be “C”, but it is unclear in the low-resolution image. "C" = an assay date of 1928-1929 (on the reverse of the sash badge's central boss and of the reverse of the sash badges suspension clip to the clip on the sash). The engraving on the gold floral elements of the arms of the blue and gold star arms on the sash badge appears to show 2 lateral marks on the most distal flowers and a single mark within the central petal. The middle flowers exhibit 3 lateral engraved marks and a single mark in the longer medial flower petal, almost forming the triangular outlining the central petals of those flowers, as seen on some Lattes and Bichay examples. The resolution is not good enough to comment on the other engraving within the gold floral ornamentation of the gold and blue enamel arms. The breast star of this set shows 3 sets of lateral marks in the most distal floral elements and a single mark in the central petal. The middle paired-flowers have 3 lateral marks on the middle flowers and a single mark engraved within the longer medial petal of each of those blossoms. The other engraving on the arms appears to be the most common format, but the photo is not high-enough resolution to distinguish details of that engraving. 

 

 

Above is the other offering of a 1st Class Grand Cordon breast star of the Order of Ismail. This moderate-resolution image comes from the same September 23, 2023 auction (Auction 57, day 2, Lot 1281) by La Galerie Numismatique, archived on the invaluable.com website that includes the above set with the sash: https://www.invaluable.com/auction-lot/the-order-of-ismail-1281-c-e12424fa29?objectID=182383900&algIndex=upcoming_lots_lotNumber_asc_prod&queryID=c5f96266345ba7896be949a74ed75cc7). The given diameter measurement in the auction description of 80 mm, and the configurations of fruit dots in the wreath, confirms this is a 1st Class  award. There is no image of the reverse of this breast star and no descriptive information about the date hallmark, although the maker's mark for Lattes is noted. The wreath configuration is the standard design and execution seen on most Lattes-made pieces. The most distal flowers on each arm exhibit 3 lateral marks and a single engraved mark within the central petal. The paired flowers in the middle of each arm have 3 lateral marks and a single longer mark in the longer most medial petal. The other portions of the engraving appear normal and all of the engraving on this star is carefully done and symmetrical. This breast star is apparently unassociated with other elements of the insignia. 

  

Lovely Orders

On 09/02/2021 at 11:56, Rusty Greaves said:

The photo that Igor included as the last image in his post of 7 February showing the "MAISON LATTES L. ROSEN & C^IE S^UCC LE CAIRE" is of interest to my continued search for additional information about J. Lattes. I have previously illustrated a couple examples of the satin labels showing the name L. Rosen associated with J. Lattes name (marked "Maison Lattes L. Rosen & Cie. Le Caire", as shown in the 14th-to-last and 9th-to-last photos of my first post of 21 October, 2019 on this thread detailing some variation in the forms of Lattes cases and labeling). Those labels were in cases for Orders of the Nile awards. All of those labels are printed in the same cursive calligraphy as the silk ribbons in the same upper left position of the upper lid interiors printed "J. Lattes Le Caire". Both of those ribbons in Order of the Nile cases also  are in cases bearing King Fuad I's cider on the outer lid. As these couple of empty cases (with the L. Rosen association with J. Lattes) are not associated with any medal bearing a date hallmark, they onto provide a chronological marker of pre-1936 (King Fuad I died on 28 April, 1936) for identifying the association between Lattes and Rosen. I recently saw an example with the different script and term "L. ROSEN & C^IE S^UCC" on a Grand Cordon example of the Order of Muhammed Ali. That common image from a Wikipedia article (https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:The_Republic_exhibition_-_NM_Prague_65_(cropped1).jpg#/media/File:The_Republic_exhibition_-_NM_Prague_65.JPG) does not show the cipher on the outer lid nor identify any date hallmark on the award in that case to refine information about the temporal association between Rosen & Lattes. 

Above is an example of one of the few satin labels showing the most common configuration of the labeling linking Maison Lattes with "L. Rosen & Cie. Le Caire". As with the "J. Lattes" labels, these are situated on the interior upper left corner of the upper lid, this example is from an empty case for a 3rd Class Commander Order of the Nile. This image comes from a current eMedals auction, Item: W5562 (https://www.emedals.com/africa/egypt/egypt-kingdom-an-order-of-the-nile-iii-class-commander-case-by-lattes-100694).

Cropped image from a Wikimedia photo of a cased example of the Grand Cordon Class of the Order of Muhammed Ali (https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:The_Republic_exhibition_-_NM_Prague_65_(cropped1).jpg#/media/File:The_Republic_exhibition_-_NM_Prague_65.JPG) showing the same form of maker's ribbon as in Igor's example of the 2nd Class Order of Ismail case above in his 7 February post.  Igor's and this example are currently the only cases I have found that show labels with this script and identification of the association of L. Rosen with Maison Lattes on the interior satin case label ribbon as "MAISON LATTES L. ROSEN & C^IE S^UCC LE CAIRE". The SUCC abbreviation likely means successeur (successor), adding another set of wrinkles to the relationships between Tewfik Bichay, J. Lattes, and L. Rosen in the 1920s-1930s

Because so much about J. Lattes remains opaque to my research, I continue to look for any additional ways to find out about this skilled jeweler. I have included bits of information as I have encountered them throughout this thread, but J. Lattes remains an enigmatic figure. I have not uncovered much about L. Rosen to date, but recently identified one Egyptian medal attributed to this maker. The Medal of Benevolence is identified in a few auction description as having been designed or made by L. Rosen. No images of any maker's marks are seen on the obverse or reverse of these medals. Perhaps the name L. Rosen is marked on the edge of some medals, or else the name may be identified on a case associated with some of these medals? I included some of this information in a recent post on the thread "Unknown Egyptian? Medal in Lattes Case" started by JackCR on 11 June, 2020, here in the "Middle East & Arabs States" section. 

 

High resolution images of the 2nd Class silver version of the Medal of Benevolence, from a 10 December, 2014 Auction 27, Lot 864, listing by A. H. Baldwin & Sons, archived on the NumisBids.com website (https://www.numisbids.com/n.php?p=lot&sid=936&lot=864). The auction description identifies this medal as "by L. Rosen & Co, Cairo". It is unclear if that may be from labeling of a case (a brown leather case is mentioned in the description) or on the medal, most likely it is the labelling of the case (not shown in the auction listing). L Rosen also is identified in a listing of a gold 1st Class example of this medal from a Numista website archived auction description (https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces104987.html). Although I have not found a listing specifically associating Rosen with a bronze 3rd Class version of this medal, almost certainly that workshop made all 3 classes of this medal. I have not yet found another Egyptian award attributed to L. Rosen, nor have I yet found any other information about the business generally. The Medal of Benevolence was instituted in 1928. 

Additional information about Lattes occasionally can be found in relation to internet sources about pocketwatches. J. Lattes of Cairo had a relationship with some watchmakers in Geneva. I still do not know if the firm Lattes Frères & Cie à Genève represents a familial connection to J. Lattes in Cairo. I have previously illustrated a couple examples of watches probably made for distribution by J. Lattes in Cairo in my post of 12 November, 2019. The first watch shown in that post includes an example by Lattes Frères & Cie à Genève designed with 2-time zone displays ("made before the official adoption of time zones as we know them today"), one with Turkish numerals (2nd and 3rd photos in the 12 November post). The 13 November, 2017 auction by Christie's identifies this watch as having been made for the Turkish market. This same watch (No. 10789) also was offered on a Sotheby's auction of 10 November, 2015, Lot 154 (https://www.sothebys.com/es/auctions/ecatalogue/2014/important-watches-ge1504/lot.154.html). My 12 November, 2019 post also shows one piece of Egyptian revival art deco style jewelry in a case with a  "J. Lattes Caire" labeling form unlike those on any Egyptian state awards (1st photo in that post). As with most jewelry stores at the time, Lattes also dealt in watches. As seen in the 2 examples of J. Lattes business cards (shown in my post of 24 April 2019, also in the same 12 November post discussing watches, and in higher resolution images in my post of 4 March, 2020), Lattes advertised selling watches from Geneva. There is evidence that a few manufacturers made watches for distribution specifically though the J. Lattes Cairo shop. For example, my 12 November post also illustrates a watch marked "J. LATTES LE CAIRE" that was made by Haas Neveux & Cie., a Geneva-based and award winning fine watchmaker, and that watch was apparently owned by Ahmed Ihsan Bey, a member of the royal family and a chamberlain of King Fuad I (5th photo in my 12 November post). 

I apologize for cluttering up this thread with pictures of watches again. I am only doing this as adjunct information regarding what I have been able to find out about J. Lattes of Cairo, through connections with horological information on the internet. Above is an image of a watch bearing the cipher of King Fuad I surmounted by the Egyptian princely crown. This image comes from the Good Old Watch website (https://www.goodoldwatch.com/it123-royal-minute-repeating-watch.html) description of watch that was not offered for sale (ID: 123). The hunter case (cover over the watch face) of this watch is identified as 18 k gold and signed by J. Lattes, a "retailer in Cairo." The movement is based on LePhare 102 calibre also used by Tiffany and Cartier watches. The text description states that the dust cover (cuvette) is signed by "J. Lattes in Geneva and Cairo".  The text also cites information from O. Patrizzi in "Dictionnaire des horlogers Genevois" that mentions J. Lattes "known from late XIX retailer for Egyptian market.
He was supplier to Sultan and after to the King, and awarded by Order of the Nile (Nishan al-Nil) for his services to crown." I have tried to find this reference (Osvaldo Patrizzi. 1998. Dictionnaire des horlogers genevois: la "fabrique" et les arts annexes du XVIe siècle à nos jours., Antiquorum Editions ISBN 10 2940019207), without luck thus far (one internet site turns up claiming to link to the text of this volume, but is just another web dead end of advertising). I may be able to use my access to the Harvard Library system to get an interlibrary loan of their copy of this volume. A YouTube video on the Good Old Watch website article about this timepiece (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMT_c3f6LWI) shows the watch being opened and a brief view of the dust cover of the mechanism showing an upper engraving of “P. Kühling Bösel”, and below that, engraved in a different script, is “J. Lattes Geneve Caire" (same style of cursive as used on Lattes silk labels inside of Egyptian award cases).  A brief glimpse of the inside of the covers of the outer case shows European not Egyptian hallmarks, including "18K" for the gold purity assay. 

Low-resolution image of a watch from a 8 June, 2001 auction archived on the Antiquorum website (https://catalog.antiquorum.swiss/en/lots/lot-15-45). The watch is identified as (marked?) J. Lattes, Genève - Cairo, No. 4386, and dating to c. 1890. The description states that it is "signed on the cuvette" (inner dust cover), but does not say if that is the placement of the J. Lattes name. 

Image of a watch made for the Middle Eastern market and identified with Lattés, Gardiol & Co, Geneva and Cairo from an 11 November, 2001 auction, Lot 116, archived on the Antiquorum website (https://catalog.antiquorum.swiss/en/lots/8881). The description states that the signature of "Lattès Gardiol" is on the silver enamel dial (in Persian). The special features include "subsidiary sunk seconds also with Islamic numerals, four apertures for days, month in Islamic characters, and moon phases." No photos of the outer cases are provided, but the description states that both covers have: "applied gold crowns surmounting texts in Persian, signifying 'King' on one side and 'Mohammed Toussoun' on the other. A note also abstracts a some information from the Osvaldo Patrizzi. 1998. Dictionnaire des horlogers genevois: la "fabrique" et les arts annexes du XVIe siècle à nos jours., Antiquorum Editions volume that: "The Lattès brothers were horological merchants active about 1860-1880, who specialized in complicated watches, in particular for export for the Middle East. They were partners with an an otherwise unknown Monsieur Gardiol. A certain J. Lattès is recorded as being established in Geneva and Cairo toward the end of the 19th century. Dictionnaire des Horlogers Genevois by Osvaldo Patrizzi, Antiquorum Editions, Geneva, 1998." A lower-resolution image of the same design watch from a 20 October, 1991 auction, Lot 453, also archived on the Antiquorum website (https://catalog.antiquorum.swiss/en/lots/lot-149-453?browse_all=1&page=1&q=Lattes). It also is described as made by Lattes, Gardiol & Co., Genève, with "Turkish numerals and apertures for months, week days and date, with moon-phase and sunk subsidiary seconds."

A watch made by Lattes Frères & Cie à Genève is illustrated in low resolution catalogue images as Lot 240 (Case No. 4318) of an auction of 10 May, 2014 by Dr. Crott, Mannheim I/BW (https://www.uhren-muser.de/en/documents/Crott_89_US.pdf). The auction description includes the information: "Lattes Frères & Cie. (1860 - 1880)
Lattes Frères & Cie were known for making watches with complications, automaton watches, and independant dead center-seconds watches for the Middle-Eastern market." The same watch (Case No. 4318) is archived for an undated auction (probably earlier as the listed price is lower than the 2014 Dr. Crott offering) as Lot 46. The better quality image from that listing is shown above (https://www.uhren-muser.de/en/44512/lattes-freres-cie-a-geneve-pocket-watch). The same note about Lattes Frères & Cie is included in the Lot 46 listing. The same design watch (No. 4386) also is listed from an 8 June 2001 auction, Lot 45, archived on the Antiquorum website (https://catalog.antiquorum.swiss/en/lots/lot-15-45?browse_all=1&page=1&q=Lattes). 

Two listings of watches made by Lattes Frères & Cie, Genève are archived on the Antiquorum website (https://catalog.antiquorum.swiss/en/lots?utf8=✓&q=Lattes) that are probably 2 examples of the same design. Lot 197 was auctioned on 2 December, 2003 (https://catalog.antiquorum.swiss/en/lots/lot-47-197?browse_all=1&page=1&q=Lattes) and Lot 356 was auctioned on 6 June, 2004 (https://catalog.antiquorum.swiss/en/lots/lot-71-356?browse_all=1&page=1&q=Lattes). The higher-resolution image of Lot 356 is shown above. Although both watches look alike (to me) and descriptions are the same, the grading and anticipated prices are different for each (Lot 356 auctioned in 2004 has a higher grading and expected price than Lot 197 auctioned in 2003). Both of these are described as "Karnak and the Valley of the Kings" watches made for the "Oriental" market. The case is described as having: "the front with a pharaoh flanked by two sphinxes and two obelisks, the back with ruins of Karnak with the Valley of the Kings in the background, bezels and band in repeated pattern" although no photos in either listing show these case designs. The face design is described as an automaton scene depicting Chronos forging his scythe (the Lot 197 description calls him "Father of Time").

Low-resolution image of watch made by Lattes Frères & Co., Genève, No 7477 again dated to c 1890. From a 14 June, 1995 auction archived on the Antiquorum website (https://catalog.antiquorum.swiss/en/lots/lot-120-182?browse_all=1&page=1&q=Lattes). The signature of Lattes Frères & Cie. is on the cuvette (not illustrated). 

An 18k watch made by Lattès Frères & Cie à Genève, No. 4099, from a 19 November, 2019 auction, Lot 11, by Bonhams, archived on the salesroom website (https://www.the-saleroom.com/en-gb/auction-catalogues/bonhams/catalogue-id-bonham10022/lot-3a43c30a-34e1-4cb6-97b7-aaf600cc482f). The Bonhams website listing of this watch (https://www.bonhams.com/auctions/25398/lot/11/) includes a much lower resolution photo, and identifies the c. 1890 date that appears to be given for most of these watches without firm supporting documentation. 

An example of an unusually designed watch attributed to J. Lattes is the above example from a 14 May, 2016 auction by Sotheby's, Lot 194 (https://www.sothebys.com/en/auctions/ecatalogue/2016/important-watches-ge1601/lot.194.html). This is identified as a yellow gold cylinder watch inside of a brooch in the form of a beetle (wings numbered 52407, movement numbered 52406), manufactured c. 1890. The name "J  ATTES" can barely be seen on the white enameled dial just below the "12", but I cannot make out the word(s) below that (L' ?).  

J. Lattès is mentioned on page 19 of  L'Horologerie Suisse, 34e Année, 1890-1891, Genève et Canton de Aud, F. L. Davoine à Marin, Neuchâtel, available online at:https://doc.rero.ch/record/323375/files/DAVOINE_1891.pdf. His name appears as the 5th down in the column on the upper left listing of Fabrique et Commerce d'horlogerie pour tous pays ("Manufacture and trade in watchmaking for all countries"). J. Lattes (not Lattes Frères & Cie) is listed as a jeweler (Boul.). Page 17 gives the information about the abbreviations used before the names - f., n., and m. as indicating f.=manufacturer; n.=business; and m.=store), "Fazy 9" refers to the street address of the Lattès shop in Geneva, Switzerland, currently known as James-Fazy 9.  

Another mention I recently identified comes from Egypt and is not associated with any of J. Lattes business connections to Geneva watchmakers. The above page documents a charitable gift by J. Lattes to an orphanage in Cairo. It comes from The Sphinx: The English Illustrated Weekly, No 506, 14April, 1923, page 706 (available online form The American University in Cairo: http://digitalcollections.aucegypt.edu/digital/collection/sphinx/id/6842/rec/7). The article in the upper right hand column "The Brotherhood Waif's Home" discusses  an upcoming Visiting Day at the Waif's Home "for the rescue and training of outcast children". The second paragraph lists contributions received by the Administrative Committee toward the home's work since that March. Line 12 includes "J. Lattes 200" indicating his donation of 200 L.E. Although the image above is unclear when zoomed, the original listing in The American University in Cairo Rare Books and Special Collections Digital Library website (page 30 of this digitized document) can be zoomed for good detail.

Wow I like those watches

9 hours ago, jaba1914 said:

Unusual but real.

 

 

I agree

10 hours ago, Stogieman said:

I agree construction looks legit. But the precedence really makes me pause. Crawled Germany, the UK and USA and couldn’t find the listing to see if I know the seller. As always, it’s going to come down to price I think.

Good points

19 hours ago, bigjarofwasps said:

Nice

On 04/10/2023 at 17:32, Peter Cornwell said:

That looks OK to me.

I agree . Even the ribbon look original

You can compare with this clasp from a Set

Welcome

21 hours ago, Alex K said:

Order of The Most Holy Annunciation, italy, neck and breast star

Thank you

On 04/10/2023 at 12:30, steveBobby said:

What could be the Neck Decoration and the one above the Bravery Star

On 04/10/2023 at 12:20, Farkas said:

Hi Gents,

The V&S is…

Vaughton & Sons

Birmingham.

 

 

I agree, certainly Merchant Navy related.

I didn’t know before but it’s a ‘Shipping Line’ badge.

 

 

There are a few examples of cap badges about, I haven’t seen a pin badge though so a nice thing to have.

 

 

 

The W I have a feeling stands for ‘Wilson’ but there are a few other lines starting W so a little research on which were in the British MN required..

 

cheers

tony 🍻

Nice work Tony

13 hours ago, farmer said:

Just a note here, brass is not metal suitable for enameling so it is most likely on base copper or what enamelers call either gilding or enameling alloy (some call it enamel grade tombac or such - there are many names for such alloys). It needs to have under 5% of zinc in it's composition and regular brass has a lot more - which would render enameling very ugly or altogether ineffective. After the fact, it can be indeed silver plated or gold plated (gilded).

Thank you

On 12/06/2023 at 16:49, steveBobby said:

More photos from the same exhibition, I haven't found any photos of recipients wearing mine clearing badges in the Black Sea, please add to this thread if someone can, I think it would be interesting

mine clearing badges in the Black Sea

 

Still on the topic

 this is interesting badge for Graduation from navy school

Very nice Congrats

On 21/09/2023 at 01:13, Great Dane said:

I have listed in which volume of S- & C-Calendars his description changes. Bear in mind that the change would probably have happened the year before.

 

Text is as stated in the calendars, but I'm sure you get the meaning...

 

-1818

Not listed

 

1819

Major, Holstenske Inf. Reg. (Rendsborg)

 

1820

Major, Bataillons-Commandeur, Holstenske Inf. Reg. (Rendsborg)

 

1828

Oberstleutnant, Bataillons-Commandeur, Holstenske Inf. Reg. (Rendsborg)

 

1831

Oberstleutnant,  Commandeur for Slesvigske Jægercorps

 

1835

Oberst, Commandeur for Slesvigske Jægercorps

 

1843

Gen.Major, Commandeur for 2den Inf.Brigade
 

1848

Gen.Major, Commandeur for 1ste Inf.Brigade
 

1851-1866

Gen. Major 

 

(he probably retired in 1850, when he is just listed with his rank) 

 

Very nice research

5 hours ago, Megan said:

Fascinating, that's a new one for me...

I totally agree

We discover even now days  new things and information

That shows we have not lost our eager for the hobby we started many years ago

Cheers