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Superb Collection
Well done
On 04/09/2023 at 20:03, pinpon590 said:Then, a post WWI (post WWII even ?) in bronze gilt Maria Therisia order knight cross, with mini...
An original one is definitively too hight cost...
A finally, a nice order of Malta, COmmander cross (ca 1930) :
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Lovely items
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10 hours ago, ilieff said:
Two images of [what appears to be] a Cejalvo-made St. Alexander Grand cross being displayed in present days. Yes, one of them is worn over the wrong shoulder/chest - it happens.
I want to point out the breast stars. I don't think I have seen close-up images of these types.
Yes They look like King Simeon Emission presumably made by Sejalvo by the King request
I have seen only few of those , however first time Grand Crosses
Congrats for finding those pictures
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2 hours ago, WJT said:
I came across this plaque many years ago from Italy. It was said to be found in a shipyard that had scrapped AH submarines after WW1. It was also said that the plaque was removed from an AH conning tower. Stories are always good but history is better. Might anyone know about a plaque like this. it is 10 inches tall, very heavy metal. Thanks if you can
Regards
Bill
Very interesting plate Congrats
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On 02/04/2022 at 14:48, Igor Ostapenko said:
Not receive answer from museum …
I am still looking for one of those Stars
Congrats
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21 minutes ago, gjw said:
Hey all, just thought I'd post my DDR Medal collection....got more coming!
Best Regards
Greg
Nice
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On 01/09/2023 at 20:22, bolewts58 said:
A genuine example of a very rare Avalov Cross 2nd Class awarded to Baltischer Kämpfer, Karl Zoller. This is part of a grouping recently acquired by a fellow collector.
The fact that both sides are enameled and the swords are detailed on both sides and gilded shows the difference between the thread starter and a real high-quality 2nd class.
Very nice The difference is striking
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On 08/02/2023 at 14:48, Igor Ostapenko said:
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Hi Igor This is very bad I agree
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Very nice Set.
Only thing is whether the EK! and the Document have not been matched at later stage
The person on the Document is a very low rank and the Ek1 is a rare clam shell variant This variant was usually made by private order at later stage They were not awarded pieces However they are original
Nice Set anyway
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3 hours ago, Farkas said:
I had to have another look for badges with 4 lugs... my photo album 👇
then i found this 👇
So there is a specific pipers badge.
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Also i found a few examples of 4 lug badges, some old, some new & some cast and surely some not original but it would seem to me there is the likelihood of genuine 4 lug badges.
A few examples...
Cheers
tony
PS the weird thing is I think i might have one of the 1900-58 badges 🤷♂️ I’ll have a rummage this week...
Nice work Tony
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On 02/09/2023 at 05:27, Stogieman said:
Hi Alex, not sure if there’s a Scharffenburg mark but this mark is on the suspension ring, hopefully I can make sense of it when it gets here next week.
Silber - Silver
10 minutes ago, graham said:Silber (Silver)
I agree Cheers
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7 hours ago, saxcob said:
Duchy of Nassau, Waterloo Medal
Excellent Document Congrats
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On 27/08/2023 at 21:44, Igor Ostapenko said:
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Hi Igor Excellent photos Thanks
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On 27/08/2023 at 21:52, Igor Ostapenko said:
Size of “russian” crosses
Hi Igor Superb Collection Congrats
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On 29/08/2023 at 02:07, augustin1813 said:
Sweden: nominations in the Order of the Sword signed by Charles-Jean (Bernadotte) :
Very nice and rare
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On 22/08/2023 at 19:19, Graf said:
The seller added additional pictures.
i am still not convinced that this is an original piece, although there is a bit of a bidding and he will get good price
Judge for yourselves
I am glad that people who bid realized that this is a copy The final price on eBay was 600 Euro That is OK
i was afraid that there will be last minute mad bidding and someone will depart with significant amount of money
It is good collectors are getting the message and/or read our posts
I hope the Seller will learn something as well
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2 hours ago, ilieff said:
I would have to agree with Alex about the cord and the jewelled order.
I think I have seen other photos where King Ferdinand I wears an order, suspended from a generic thin metal chain or cord. It was probably due to ease of wearing (due to the weight of the official metal chain) but the above is clearly a studio portrait and I don't see a reason for the cord to be used.
Nice observation Yes we will wonder about those unusual way of wearing the Decorations. We only can speculate
It could be de the jewel par sent for a repair or snapped from the Order Only the King would have known
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On 25/08/2023 at 17:16, No one said:
Dear Gentlemen,
It's only in 1955 that the "Palmes Académiques" became an order. Prior 1955 it was called "Palmes Universitaires and/ or Palmes Académiques". Interesting reading: Ordre des Palmes académiques - Wikipedia
Translation of part the French page (Ordre des Palmes académiques — Wikipédia (wikipedia.org)😞
"The insignia of this order have evolved over time:
Originally, the badge represented an olive branch and a laurel branch intertwined. The laurel branch is reminiscent of the laurel wreath worn by victors in Antiquity, but also by poets; as for the olive branch, it evokes peace, but the winners of the ancient Olympic Games also wore an olive crown:
-under the First Empire (1808), the palms are woven in purple thread on a black felt background about 10 cm high, sewn onto the robes of professors of imperial and then royal universities (three variants listed);
- under the Second Empire, the palms are woven on a ribbon of black or purple moire — which still earns them their name of purple decoration and in the order that of the purple Legion — about 5 cm high, many variants exist ; they are in silver or gold wire for officers of public instruction and in polychrome wire for academy officers; from 1866 the palms were made of metal and suspended from a plain purple ribbon for Academy officers and a ribbon with a rosette for Officers of Public Instruction. They are then in silver for the officers of the academy and in vermeil, even in gold, for the officers of public instruction. Generally the olives are represented in red enamel, more rarely in green enamel.
- under the Third Republic, the model adopted in 1866 was maintained.
Since 1955, the badge has been made up of two identical branches, rather laurel (the olives have disappeared), based on a model designed by Raymond Subes. The ranks of knight, officer and commander were then created:
- knight's insignia are usually silver (sometimes bronze or silver vulgar metal) suspended from a plain purple ribbon;
- officer's insignia are generally in vermeil (more rarely in gold or even in bronze or vulgar gold metal) suspended from a purple ribbon fitted with a rosette;
- Commander's insignia are generally in vermeil (more rarely in gold or even in bronze or vulgar gold metal) suspended from a tie worn around the neck."
Yours sincerely,
No one
Very nice information Thanks
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He came from one of the richest families in Europe.
Very extravagant and liked to enjoy life After he became the Prince of Bulgaria His family spend fortune to turn Sofia into a "modern' European city During his time many luxury Orders and Decorations were awarded He got many in return.
His son King Boris was much more modest
Sadly many of his Decorations have been sold by his Grand son the current King Simeon through some Auction Houses
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On 24/08/2023 at 16:10, Alex K said:
Hi all, ive been reading this thread with interest, he was certainly flamboyant!
This image has been posted before and ive been studying it closely, think ive found a question, regarding his golden fleece, based on my assessment of the image, he appears to be wearing only the bottom part of the decoration suspended from what i can see as heing black string!, secondly, the fleece itself has the appearance (to me) as a bejewelled version, not the typical type he was awarded, does anyobe know if he had a jewelled example?
Regards
Edit, i think ive answered my own question 😄
Very nice observation and research work Thanks
Prince/King Ferdinand liked all those luxury decorations he was giving them to other Royals and he was getting many in return It is good to be a King
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On 24/08/2023 at 18:44, augustin1813 said:
Saxony: Order of St Henry:
For general Belliard:
For general Flahaut:
Excellent
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2 hours ago, Farkas said:
Hi Gents,
i only spotted these fellas just as the auction was ending, got them for £17 + £3 postage.
I didn’t have time to look into them but i hope for £20 it was worth a punt.
5 miniatures with ribbon...
Numbers 3 & 4 caught my eye the most.
I’ll post some pics when i get them but in the meantime... any information or observations are most welcome and appreciated Gents.
cheers
tony 🍻
Very nice mins Tony
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On 24/08/2023 at 04:43, Rusty Greaves said:
Today's addition is a few bits and pieces. First, an example of a District Courts' badge from a past 2016 auction. Second, a portrait of Belgian Judge Maurice de Wée wearing his judicial sash and badge, along with other awards and medals. The final contribution is a business card for an Italian jewelry house in Cairo 7that may be an additional manufacturer of these Mixed Courtsl badges.
Moderate-resolution image of a Mixed Courts badge, probably a gold and silver District Courts emblem. This example is Lot no. 82 from a 13 April, 2016 auction by Beaussant Lefèvre, Auction Histoire & Chevalerie, archived on the Drouot website (https://drouot.com/en/lot/publicShow/5856725). The above image is from the online description of Lot 82. The description states the badge is vermeil (gilt silver), suggesting it is a District Courts badge. Although difficult to distinguish in the above photo, the next image shows the contrast of the vermeil gilt and silver better. The information for Lot no. 82 gives its dimensions as 117 mm x 87 mm. It does not identify any maker's mark, but does describe a boar's head mark on the reverse, which is a French mark for 800 silver minimum fineness, in use between 1838-1962. The workmanship is consistent with that of Froment-Meurice. The tablet calligraphy is most similar to the Froment-Meurice Group 1 examples, especially that illustrated from a 3 June, 2015 auction by Dreweatts & Bloomsbury, (Lot 175), archived on the-saleroom.com website that is shown as the 3rd photo in my post of 6 September, 2021 on this thread. The orientation of the three tuğ elements of the tugra in the Order of Medjidie is rotated slightly clockwise to ~30°-40°, as seen on almost all other Froment-Meurice badges. There is some damage and loss of small parts of the enamel of the central tablet inscription.
Low-resolution image of the same badge, cropped from the illustration from page 15 of the pdf catalog for this 13 April, 2016 auction by Beaussant Lefèvre, Auction (https://www.gazette-drouot.com/telechargement/catalogue?venteId=26010). This is a lower-resolution image that does not show details of the design and execution as well as the first photo in this post. However it does show the vermeil gilding of the rayed embellishment, on the star above the tablet, the tablet (?), on each of the laurel and oak branches with their tughs, possibly some of the fringe of the mantle, and maybe on the Order of Medjidie and its surrounding wreath. Oddly, the damage to the enamel seen in the first photo in this post is not apparent in this photo. Tarnish or loss of the gilt on the rayed embellishment (especially on the uppermost portion) indicates this is the same badge as that shown above. The dark stains on the central tablet seen in the 2nd photo are not as sharply defined in the 1st photo in this post. Those spots in the first photo of this badge are a more diffuse "staining" that may represent the effects of attempts to polish away those darker stains (the cleaning may have removed some of the vermeil on the tablet exposing some of the silver underneath). Could some of this cleaning/polishing be responsible for the damage to the enamel of the tablet inscription?
Above is a high-resolution undated image of the Belgian Judge Maurice de Wée from Les Moments littéraires no. 45 (https://lesmomentslitteraires.fr/fiche auteur/FAde wée.html ). Maurice de Wée was a practicing lawyer in Brussels from 1913-1919 and was the substitute and first substitute for the King's Prosecutor in Belgium from 1919-1924. He was appointed as a judge to the Mixed Court of Mansourah on 22 April, 1924, and made Vice-President of that Court in on 13 November, 1925. De Wée later served as President of the District Court in Mansourah, possibly through 1949. He also may have been made President of the Cairo District Court and a legal advisor to the Appeals Court sometime prior to the closing of the Courts in October 1949. De Wée published several legal studies, including: La compétence des juridictions mixtes en Égypte ("The jurisdiction of mixed jurisdictions in Egypt"), 1926, Librairie des sciences juridiques, Brussels. I have previously included an illustration of Maurice de Wée with the rest of the Mansourah court as the first photo in my post of 21 August, 2021 on this thread. I also included a later portrait painted by fellow jurist Mahmoud Saïd of the same court as the 3rd photo in that same 21 August, 2021 post. Another group portrait of the judges of the Mansourah Court shows a comparatively young de Wée in the photo in my post of 3 September, 2019. De Wée appears even younger in the above portrait, and compared with the other two Court portraits. I think this photo is likely to have been taken close to his initial appointment in 1924. Although he wears a tarboosh, the jacket is not the stambouline coat that is the normal outerwear for Mixed Courts judges when at the bench. This western style jacket was worn by several members of the Mixed Courts probably as an alternative formal non-court attire (note fellow Belgian Firman von den Bosch as Procureur Général [the Chief Prosecutor] in the 4th photo of my post of 29 April, 2019 wearing the same jacket, white vest, white tie and celluloid collar; the Chef Greffer Adib Makaad Bey, especially in the portrait from February 1926 portrait shown as the 14 the image in my post of 6 September, 2019; and the unnamed judge or functionary illustrated as the first two portraits in my post of 6 April, 2020 on this thread; additionally, members of the Indigenous Courts in my post of 6 April, 2020 [see the 10th and 12th photos of that post] often seem to have worn this style jacket). In addition to the monochrome sash and judicial badge, de Wée also wears several medals that appear to be principally Italian and Belgian. He wears the 3rd Class Commander neck badge of the Italian Order of the Crown. I believe that the miniatures represent (from the viewers L to R): the Belgian Order of Leopold (?, Knight?, Civil Division?), the Belgian Civic Decoration of the War with the WWI service ribbon, the Belgian Victory Medal 1914-1918, the Belgian Commemorative Medal of the 1914-1918 War (?), the Belgian Commemorative Medal of the National Committee for Aid and Food (?, likely 3rd Class, silvered bronze), the ItaIian Order of the Crown 3rd Class Commander (with rosette and silver galon), but I am uncertain about the final miniature at the far right with a rosette and possibly a galon.
The last item I am including is the above business card from an Italian jewelry store in Cairo that sold jewelry, silverware, watches and clocks. This comes from a recent eBay auction (https://www.ebay.com/itm/276009039960?mkevt=1&mkcid=1&mkrid=711-53200-19255-0&campid=5338722076&customid=&toolid=10050). Filli. Fr. & V. Rusciano's card includes a line in the center left that reads: "Experts près le Tribunaux Mixtes" (Experts at [to] the Mixed Courts). Although I have never seen a badge nor case marked with this name, there remain still four badge design styles I have looked at that I cannot yet identify with any particular maker. Filli. Fr & V. Rusciano's could be one of those four manufacturers. The reverse of the card identifies the Register du Commerce Caire No. 10736, and has a note of receipt of payment dated August 27, 1937.
Reverse of the same business card from Filli. Fr. & V. Rusciano with the receipt of payment note, date, and the commercial registration number.
What an excellent stuff
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On 22/08/2023 at 02:03, augustin1813 said:
Russia:
Letter signed by Tsar Alexander Ist in Saint-Petersburg on October 7, 1804, addressed to the captain of the Gardes du Corps of the Preobrajeski regiment, Count Woronzow. "In hommage to the perfect bravery you showed on the 1st and 15th of september of this yearduring the combats of our troops where, being a volunteer, you were often employed in the most dangerous places by rushing yourself with the soldiers on the bayonets and giving to all the example of your fearlessness, I appoint you knight of the Order of Saint Vladimir, 4th degree, for Christians. I send you the insigna wich I order you to put on yourselves ad to wear with the ribbon presribed by the order, being persuaded that it will serve you as an incentive for the continuation of brilliant services. I will remain benevolent towards you".
Superb
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On 19/08/2023 at 15:49, Graf said:
100% sure the enamel is a soft modern one like the one on the picture ( listed on page two on this forum "upgraded' Original Commander of the Order of St Alexander)
I sent an email to the seller See what he will answer I asked hm to do the needle tests on the enamel
The seller responded to my mail He did not check the enamel Insist that the Cross is Original
I cannot argue with him Buyer be Aware Rule apply
Here is a close shot of the central medallion
You can see the dull look of it The old glass enamel has very good transparency and dept
The seller added additional pictures.
i am still not convinced that this is an original piece, although there is a bit of a bidding and he will get good price
Judge for yourselves
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Interesting Ordre des Palmes académiques
in France
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Thank you