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According to some experienced collectors the cross is a fake. Apparently the FUR in all caps is a bad sign.

I concur with your thoughts. What are the chances some random Leiber Officer left his uniform jacket there?  I hear a duck quacking. 

And the long quest is over. Balance to the universe is restored.

Is the official producer known?

On 08/03/2024 at 11:50, VtwinVince said:

I reiterate my opinion on this thing: fantasy piece.

When you see the sellers I tend to agree. 

I know. The Baden Field Division.  The bar came with the Bavarian Army Jubilee medal hanging from that ribbon. I've been thru the bander catalog and while the ribbon for the Army Jubilee is close it is not correct. If the wearer was a Badner that somehow received the Jubilee medal he would still have to be living in Bavaria to receive it. Therefore he would have had the correct ribbon for it. Or perhaps he was a Bavarian who served in the Baden Army.

On the other hand, if he received the Luitpold medal, which this ribbon it the correct one for that, then he was still living and working in Bavaria. Again, not a problem as since they were now all considered  Germans I am sure that they could move from one state to another to live and work. 

Which led me to my final question- Could he have been awarded both and the regulations have some funny way of denoting this, like wearing the Jubilee medal on the Luitpold ribbon to show both were awarded? 

Either this configuration is correct or someone swapped out the Luitpold for the Jubilee medal. I'm covering all the bases before swapping back.

I have questions about the awarding and wear of the Army Jubilee medal and the Luitpold Medals. 

1. Could a guy be awarded both of them?

2. If they could be awarded both, would they both be worn on a medal bar at the same time?

3. Is there some rule that would dictate that one medal (say the Jubilee Medal) would be worn on the Luitpold medal ribbon?

I'm trying to make sense of this medal bar. My first thought was the ribbon has faded over time but after careful checking and measuring I can say it is definitely the ribbon for the Luitpold ribbon. Since you had to be living in Bavaria at the time both awards were issued I can't apply the "close enough" excuse for the mismatch.

Thoughts?

Perhaps Himmler didn't wear a Hindy because it lacked Swords, a continuous reminder that he saw no frontline service.

When was the wearing of two LS medals instituted? I'm not sure what else could go on there. Maybe some of the senior members have an opinion.

Wow!!! Just plain WOW!!! I bet that set you back $30-40 bucks.

How is this combo even possible? Did I miss a thread somewhere? Would not the 2d award be an EK1?

I love their "uniforms."

The hunt and the quest for knowledge. That is what keeps us going.

How was your break? Nice collection.

Thanks Glenn. 

Looking for their official history from WW1 if it was ever produced.

It is the rarity of the thing that gets me. A state visit. The guy gets handed a gong for being there. Adds his LS medal in 1913 and then probably put the bar away when he went to war.  I think the award is rare enough that if he had survived the war it would have moved to his post war medal bar. 

Household medal for the King of Siam.

Yes. I saw it when it was first listed and started doing some homework on it.

How does this long service medal look?

I was watching that as well. Then again, Weitze lists them without crown for 550e.

A Siamese Household Medal awarded to a German, probably during a State visit by the King in 1907. The bar was probably assembled in 1913/14 when the new Long Service medals were implemented. Since the bar was never updated to reflect war service in 1914/18 I assume the owner must have died during the war.

Very nice bar.

Better to look at a couple of dealer sites to get an idea of current pricing.

The first two awards are aluminum.