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Let's simplify: What's the shiny thing (photo above) on his shoulder cords nearest the camera?
Also: See this portrait: Lots of stuff on his shoulder cords but it's a retouched photo, so who knows?
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It was common for British monarchs to wear the cypher of their predecessor on their shoulder boards and epaulettes, I assume because they were honorary adjutants to them. The photo above is very detailed but I cannot make out what's on his shoulder cords. Should be an embroidered field marshal insignia, crossed batons with a surmounting crown but who knows? There is some kind of metal device that looks like a silver crown at the shoulder end. Anyone know?
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5 hours ago, Great Dane said:
Unfortunately I don't know of any copies of the Dannebrog Silver Merit Cross...
A real one will set you back $5-600 if you can find one.
Yes. I bought the one I have many years ago when they were cheaper. Maybe someday someone will make a decent copy. It's on Tsar Nicholas II's bar as well, so may be worth the effort for a good repro.
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Does anyone have a clear photo or know if Edward VII wore his mother's monogram cypher "VR" on his Field Marshal and Admiral of the Fleet uniform shoulder boards/epaulettes?
I can't find a clear photo to tell.
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...and I make judgements about when it's reasonable to invest in a real medal if a copy is not available. For example, the last two medals on the Edward bar or several of the early medals on my Kaiser Wilhelm I bar.
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Can someone find a good copy? I have my only original on my Nicholas II bar.
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Andreas: Perfect. As usual. Thank you, my friend!
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Yet another question no one else is interested in: What was the initial design of the Prussian officers' 25 year long service cross? Did it always look the same, eg, stippling within the cross arms? Same monogram?
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Don't know but it would make sense. I hope someone can respond to that.
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On 16/11/2021 at 03:37, jimn said:
Congratulations on a nice job on Eddie's medal bar.
jimn: Thank you! It's a lot of stuff to crowd onto a small space. I'd guess his were perhaps smaller medals to allow for that, maybe not. It was interesting to source many of them and I was lucky to only have to buy three originals.
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Does anyone have a source for the ribbon for the last medal, the 'Geneva Cross'? What I have is original and it's rather dirty. I'd swap it out if I could find the ribbon. Please let me know if you have a source.
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03fahnen: Yes, this is the clearest photo yet. Both rank pips appear clearly in profile, on the right shoulder, as well.
This settles it. Note the reseda green stand collar on this tunic. Not enough 'real estate' for the flying propeller on these shoulder boards. It's likely he had other tunics with perhaps that insignia but this clearly shows the regimental devices. Nice, thanks.
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OK, based on the above, here's my recreation of Edward VII's bar. There are several originals (I prefer copies but some are not extant); some are improvised, but they're all there.
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Does anyone know of a private collection or museum display of Prussian officer uniforms of this period (1842-1850's)?
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Thank you, 03fahnen. The shoulder epaulettes look the same as the later ones. No idea if the ground/facing colors were regimental or Korps, as they were later. I wonder if any examples survive in museums or private collections, particularly infantry officer epaulettes? I haven't found any online or in this forum.
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GlennJ: Thank you. I had seen these also and have to agree based on these that the dress epaulettes must have been similar enough that a display using later ones would serve for an 1848 display. Unless someone can show otherwise, that's what's planned for my uniform display of this period. Thanks to all who have contributed!
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1 hour ago, dedehansen said:
Hi filfoster,
Daniel Friedrich Gottlob Teichert
https://www.garnisonfriedhofberlin.de/biographien-l-z/
Regards
Andreas
Danke
Teichert's portrait shows epaulettes that are to my eye, nearly identical to the 1870-1910 senior officer dress epaulettes. Does anyone have any more information on this, please?
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From the few drawings available online, I believe the dress epaulettes for officers were virtually the same as for the 1870 time; 'banjo' shaped epaulettes, with silver or gilt crescents, no fringe for lieutenants and captains; thin fringe for majors to colonel, heavy fringe for generals. Is this the case?
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As I understand it, there was a major revision in the uniform regulation in 1842. I can find nothing online for this. I most of all need illustrations of the officer rank insignia from this time. Can anyone supply some references or photos ?
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Does anyone have any photos of Prussian army (officers preferred) rank insignia, epaulettes, etc. for the 1842-1850's period?
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20 hours ago, dedehansen said:
Andreas, thank you. Is there a reference book that has Prussian uniforms of 1842?
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Can anyone point me to a good reference on the uniforms worn by the Prussian (and French, Austrian) military forces who confronted the socialist revolutionary forces in 1848?
Prussia had instituted a dramatic change in its uniforms in 1842. I can find virtually nothing online to show examples of the rank insignia or uniforms themselves for this period.
This inquiry is prompted by my own new-found interest in this very dramatic period of history as it now echoes again in our own time, albeit in a much different way.
I hope someone can point me to a few good reference books or better yet, museum displays or personal collections that include good photos of some actual insignia or uniforms from this period.
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Dave: Yes, thanks for this as well. It is an example of an officer's detachable medal bar but the 'bowing' of the ribbon behind the medals, at bottom, suggests, as you say, that it wasn't intended as an alternate ribbon bar. From what we've got so far, I still think these were NOT common for officers, who seem to have preferred the full folded mounting style with permanently attached medals. I hope folks will continue to post examples like yours, of officer bars with hooks, and that rarest of species, the bars that could also be worn as ribbon bars without the medals. I'm sure there are some more out there, like the one shared by Daniel Krause.
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Detachable medals-Enlisted only?
in Germany: Imperial: The Orders, Decorations and Medals of The Imperial German States
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Daniel: Thanks for that! That's an outstanding example of what I was looking for!