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Rich, To me is more than that. I am new to this forum and to other forums, and for me is all about sharing, discussing, and above all, learning. When I posted the picture of my cross I truly believed it was good one, and I wanted to share it here. When you questioned the authenticity of the cross, I asked why it was so. The replies given to me did not fully satisfy me, especially when I compared my cross to crosses described in books such as the one I mentioned before to Bill. For example, a low date. Well, there are good crosses like that?? The pin where are crosses with similar pins?? The hallmark? and so forth. I do not collect WWII stuff and it was sufficient to me to compare this cross, which was given to me several years ago, to those shown on books like Geissler?s It wasn?t until Bill came up into the discussion and mentioned the pin, the hinge, and the clasp, that I began to really look further, especially going over the multiple threads in this and other forums. I am now convinced that this cross is not good. It has all the characteristics of what is called a Floch, which by the way, I haven?t heard of this before. I believe it is not mentioned in the books I have, and many books actually present Floch crosses as real (including Previtera?s Iron Time) Lesson learnt! I thus rectify to you guys. This cross is not genuine. Thanks for the discussion Bill and Rich, and I apologize for any trouble I may have caused. George

Hello Bill. An example with exactly the same dimensions as the piece I show, and with the same "1" hallmark is shown on pages 152 - 153 of DAS EISERNE KREUZ, 1813 bis heute, v. H. Gei?ler, Patzwall 1995 The piece I show has the following characteristics: a) 45mm x 45mm x 27mm b) Three piece construction with Iron Center c) Has a shallow swastika unlike what has been suggested d) Date numbers are even, not uneven as has been suggested before. e) Numbers do not touch lower rim as has been stated before. Although not as high as many EK I?s but in similar position to many other EK I?s f) The ?1? hallmark is typical of many other Deschlers made pieces g) The pin is similar to that shown on Gei?lers?s book. h) HOWEVER the hinge is not! Now, regardless of it being a Deschler or not, is this medal an authentic EK I ? I believe it is. But, is it a Deschler? Points a) through g) makes me believe it is. However, is h) enough to discard it as a Deschler given all the other characteristics? If it is, it is. If it is not, it isn?t. I am no seller and I am not pretending to pass a piece for what it is not. The only thing is that, as of now, I haven?t received a real argument against it being a Deschler. Regards, George

Comparing mine to literature examples, yes. Comparing mine to the other cross hallmarked "1", however, makes me doubt about the authenticity of the other cross. The hallmark doesn?t look like anything seen on literature.

Cross: 45 mm. x 45 mm. Cross arm 27 mm.

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Dan, Thank you very much for your comments. Here are some more pictures. The ribbon of EKII and Albert Order is a single combined ribbon. The other one, of course, is that of the Saxe-Ernestine House Order. Thanks again. Regards, George

Thank you very much for the information. I appreciate very much your help. Regards, George

Why do you say so?

Hey Paul. Thank you very much for your help. I decided to post it here because you never know who will be looking where and when. Yes, I know, obtaining a photo would be difficult, but yet again...you never know... Thanks again. George

Hello, This Ulanka belonged to a Rittmeister Schmidt, who served with the 2nd. Royal Saxon Uhlan Regiment No. 18, garrisoned at Leipzig. The tunic has a tag with the officer?s name, the regiment number and the date 1915. The Ulanka has the new regimetal color (burgundy) after it was changed from ponceau rot (poppy red) in 1915. Thanks to Glenn at the Aerodrome Forum, I learnt that we are possibly talking about Rittmeister der Reserve Alfred Schmidt of 2. Ulanen-Regiment Nr. 18. Leutnant: 22.11.99 Oberleutnant d.R.: 14.8.08 A Rittmeister d.R: 14.8.13 G Paul Chepurko at the Wehrmacht Awards Forum wrote the following: "According to the 1914 Sachen Rangliste he had the following awards: 1. Sachen Albert Cross 2nd class 2. Landwehr long service 2nd class 3. Sachen Ernestine house order 2nd class 4. Sachen Altenburg Ernest medal Since he was a reserve officer he is not listed in the post war army honor ranklist" Can someone in this forum provide me with more information about this person? A picture perhaps??? Thanks, George

Here is mine.