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Max Weise GERA

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Standard from Godet

Here is his T?rO3...

Hi Gents,

just for information. Our Member W. Nickel found out the name for this bar.

It's Hermann Wagener served at the Feldartillerie-Regiment Nr.9 (Schleswig-Holsteinisches) :jumping:

At DOA 1908/09 he is listed at Major aD, (born. 19.06.1845) with following decorations:

KDM70, KDM66, MSwMV70 2, PRAO 4 (18.01.1892, maybe when he left the Army), PKrO 3 (10.06.1901), PEK70 2, PDA25, PME 2 (20.09.1866), PCM, T?rO 3 (Neckcross).

The PRAO 3 mSchl he got at the 15.10.1912.

Now it's clear that the MEZ2 was missing.

Thank you Werner! :cheers:

I'm so happy that I was the winner at the auction. :jumping:

Backside.

Here is a medalbar with the 2nd Typ. I know we talked about this bar allready here...

Backside...

Hello Friends,

today I want to reanimate this threat.

At first I want to show you Anhalt for Arts and Science 1.Typ. This one is not a fake!!!

Godet item in an original Box from Godet.

One of the MVK "F?r Tapferkeit" is made by Godet.

The Needle is marked.

@ CRBeery

here I want to show you three original MVK 1st Class "F?r Tapferkeit" and one original MVK 1st Class "Tapfer und Treu".

All pieces are made by different manufacturer.

Why MEZ2 and not MEZ1? And as a Mecklenburger, would he have been exempt from the weird attachments that Prussians got?

PrME2 (MEZ2) is the qualification for MEZ1. Sofar is a MEZ! not possible. My theorie is that this man was in 1866 too young for an officer rank and he was not exempt from prussian decorations. The MEZ2 is a decoration also for cadets in 1864 and 1866. In the rank list you can find a number of Oberste and other higher rank officers with this medal.

Now in a german Forum (SDA) we found out that the MEZ 2 is missing. :jumping:

Now I need only a name...

Regards Seeheld

Backside

I have also one...

Cernierung von Metz is an inofficial Battle clasp!!!

One evidence for an Officer from Mecklenburg is also the KDM 1866. Reverse is written "Treuen Kriegern". Specially the troops from Mecklenburg are arwarded with this medal, because this contingent was fighting in Bavaria and not in K?nigsgr?tz.

Maybe I'm wrong, because I got an other medalbar (the dealer told me that this medals came from the same family) from WW I. One of the decorations is the Bremen Hanseatic Cross. The Hanseatic Regiments combated together with the Mecklenburg troops at all wars since 1813-1918.

I would say it it 99.9999 percent certainly a Prussian Crown Order 4 with Swords for 1866.

Wonderful Oberst's bar... now to FIND the early pattern KO4X!

And yes, I know, I know-- there are no "X am Ringe" on the KO3.... but the heightwhere the award was removed does not suggest anything else.

I can not believe that the missing order is the PrKO4X because the missing Swords on PrKO3! In 1866 around 35 officers are awarded with HOH3X. On the otherside maybe he was to young for an officer grade in 1866. This is the reason why I'm thinking about the PrME1.

Hi roman,

you Oldenburg KVK 1. class is a private one and not the official one.

I like it very much!

regards

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Hello Friends,

today I went to a nice village in the middel of nowhere in Germany and I got from an antique dealer a number of medalbars and other single decorations. (the price was on the lower level )

My problem is, that I don't know witch decoration is missing???

HOH3X or PrME1?

According to the decorations and battle clasps this man was an officer at Granddukes Friedrich Franz II. of Mecklenburg-Schwerin 2nd Army-Group in the franco-prussian war 1870/71.

His missing decoration he gat in the austrian-prussian war 1866. (maybe as Fahnenjunker? or allready as officer).

I have no name...

I checked out the DOA 1904/05 and 1908/09 without maches.

regards

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@ CRBeery,

I will write my commend very short:

It's looks like garbage!!!!

Hello Friends,

Eric Stahlhut (I like your bar very much ) your problem is very simple, because this soldier was in the Gro?herzoglich Mecklenburgisches F?silier-Regiment Nr.90 Kaiser Wilhelm II.

This crown is a part (on top of the W) of the shoulder board for an officer and rebuild to a brooch.

Some years ago I got a same brooch incl. the W.

Your medal bar is typical for this regiment.

Here is one of my bars...

Reverse

This one is in my collection...

Second class with swords!

Which principality is it from?

There are about 41 names on the Rudolstadt roll, but the Sondershausen roll for the Eichenbruch is missing.

This medalbar is from Schwarzburg-Sondershausen...