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If you want to sell this bar sometimes in your life, I'm standing by...

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Thank you Wild Card,

you are right.

My first impression was wrong. Before I got also only pictures of the front side and not from the back side. I was really thinking that the ribbons are fixed with glue... :banger:

This was the reason why my bidding was so low. Really nice and rare bar. Congratulation!!!

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Hi Chris,

ahh you are the winner of the auction in Vienna...

I tryed to identify this bar, but it's not possible. 14 persons from Mecklenburg got the same combination.

Could you please show us the back side? The ribbons are fixed with glue?

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MMV = Friedrich Franz Cross (1 = 1st Class, 2 = 2nd Class)

MMV = Military merite cross!!!

The Friedrich Franz Cross is totally different! See picture...

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You are not totally right.

1. EK2

2. prussian life saving medal

3. Red eagle order 4th class

4. Colonial medal

5. 1897 centenar medal

6. mecklenburgian (Schwerin or Strelitz) Military merite cross

7. oldenburgian Friedrich August cross 2nd class

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Back side

Here is a Frackbar of an unknown Doc, Priest...

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My really old scan is not so good. This picture was made by my camera. If you need a better one, please let me know.

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Back side.

The bar ist 100% original and untouched.

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Already in my hands since two days...

Sorry, bad luck for you. I've got it together with some Mecklenburg stuff.

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May I ask for how long it is in your collection now?

Since yesterday early afternoon...

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This medalbar is already in my collection because I like it too.

The condition of this original bar is wunderful and the ribbons are very old...

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Mecklenburg - last medal - for 25 years service in as firefighter

This medal ist very rar!

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Paul Fromm (Almanach 1908)

born: 24.10.1864 in Gielow / Mecklenburg

SW-Africa medal for Combattants

Mecklenburg-Schwerin: MVK 2nd Class for Africa - 17.09.1905 as Hauptmann a.D.

Red Eagle Order 4th Class with Swords

Crown Order 3rd Class with Swords

Crown Order 4th Class

Prussian Long Service Cross for Officers

Centenar Medal 1897

His MVK 1st Class is until middle of 1917 not listed. maybe he got it later.

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I'm sure. She is not a jew widow. Because in her award dokument is written as rank: Frau Kantor!!!

This is a christian rank in lutheran, protestant and catholic church. I don't think so than a jew can be a christian priest at the same time...

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The basic MVK was instituted by Friedrich Franz II in 1848 and issued in all ensuing wars with a change of date. Friedrich Franz IV renewed it in 1915 with the date 1914. The earlier form, let's call it type 1, was struck early in the war. At some time later the design was changed slightly with a different crown and all capitals on the reverse. It was awarded until 1929.

I'm sorry, but I'm not agree with you. Your 1st Type is one of the last types from the middle twenties. This is not a official awarded one, because this was for sale on many jeweliers in Germany.

Your 2nd Type is the first Type...

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Ha, look at the great quality of those oak leaves ... yummy ! Can we see the complete bar please ?

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Hendrik

Here is the complete bar. Paul Tornow was wearing the bar until he died in Metz 1921.

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I my collection a have one only on a german medal bar...

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1. Type = 1841-1868

After 1868 the old crosses were rebuilt to 2. Type with 9 (IX.) years. This is the reason why we can't find so much 1. Type crosses.

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Here is one really rare long service cross.

Mecklenburg-Schwerin 1. Type for 10 years!

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As I know the name is

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other side

I don't like yours...

Please have a look on this original one.

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As I know, he was a longer time in vacation. But he should be back.

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I know him too. Nice guy and you can trust him. He is a really fair dealer.

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