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It is actually „Großpapa“=Granddad.
You might not find him in the list either for obvious reasons ☺️.
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Thus, "Prince Charles, Prince of Wales" translates to "Prinz Charles, Fürst von Wales".
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Simi, it is (just) a Jones and (unfortunately) not by his friend Turner.
Until now I thought that mom is just giving her daughter some good advise on how to behave in England. However, you might be right ad she is in fact trying to hold her back. At least there is some sort of urgency: the coachman is already leaving the house while a boy is promptig the couple to get on the coach.
As Trooper_D rightly pointed out, the 15th century tower still stands - but only just.
French troops tried to blow it up in 1689 only to produce a hole of the size of a smal car.
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Well spotted, Dr Watson!
I agree, this was really a crime. The beautiful mid 17th century building needed to go in order to give way for a malt factory which was itself demolished recently.
The smell of it still haunts me today.
In the local newspaper I found some reports on the before/after situation.
The painting is exhibited in my living room ;-).
Jones did in fact produce two versions. The one you show was painted by him in 1863 almost 40 years later.
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The painting shows a scene in the town where I used to live. The building in the middle was demolished in 1959.
Jones was part of the army of occupation in Paris after the battle of Waterloo. A decade later, in 1825 he took a trip down the river rhine where he made the scetches for this painting which was exhibited in London in 1827.
Thanks to you we now know that the soldier is nobody else than Jones himself. He obviously leads a local lady to a coach.
Since Jones married much later and someone of his own nationality we may proceed from the assumption that this was all the result of his imagination.
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On 02/07/2020 at 23:33, Simius Rex said:
I looked up George Jones and found a picture of him as an older man. Do you think it's possible that Mr. Jones included himself in the painting? I am seeing an uncanny resemblance between Jones and the figure in the painting. Simi.
On 22/07/2020 at 16:47, Tony Farrell said:It's known as a forage cap - or camp hat, tent cap etc. Essentially a peakless soft bonnet worn in undress uniform as opposed to shakos or helmets. Typically worn around camp for training, it was also worn on campaign in lieu of standard regimental head dress - particularly if such had been destroyed or lost. They lasted into the late Victorian era before being supplanted by Kilmarnocks, glengarries, Atholls and Balmorals, but one could say they survived beyond that as Tams and the GS caps of WW2 - which are not that much removed from caubeens and berets.
Thanks to both of you! Your invaluable help is much appreciated.
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He is wearing the order of St. Olav.
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The (Military) Order of Wiliam is awarded only for excellent bravery in battle.
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I don't mind and just assume that the British colleagues just do not know either.
Thus I am even more grateful to you for having indentified the soldier as a self portrait of the painter.
This is now confirmed by an other example (see below).
Since I was unfortunate enough to have read your last post pre edit, I sincerely hope that you will not have second thoughts about having helped a Central European who just happens to live in Belgium ;-).
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We did already discuss the matter here
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The nose - the chin (!) - the eye sockets - you could be right.
Jones bore a strong resemblance to Wellington and was sometimes mistaken for him.
Would any of the experts be so kind as to enlighten us with respect to the uniform?
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Thank you.
The painter actually was a soldier himself so he should have had the necessary knowledge.
Since none of our British experts reacted I wonder whether it is a uniform at all?
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I am currently doing some resaerch on a painting (1827) of George Jones RA (6 January 1786 – 19 September 1869). He was a British painter and Keeper of the Royal Academy, most famous for his paintings of military subjects incl. Waterloo.
The scene shown here is just a smal section of a larger painting depticting a smal German city on the Rhine.
My interpretation is that it shows a young couple on the rigth side and the wife’s mother as well as a priest on the left.
The groom seems to wear a red jacket with a black collar and golden embroidery as well as an unknown headgear.
Is this a British uniform and if so which one?
Any help would be highly appreviated.
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Maybe up your sleeve since "ass" is the german word for for "ace"?
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No doubt about that. However, do not expect an iron cross 1939 to be among those ;-)
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He died in 1934...
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Time to post Braunschweig!
in Germany: Imperial: The Orders, Decorations and Medals of The Imperial German States
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Note that the EC EK is for 1914 but the KDM for 1870/71.