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4 hours ago, Dave Wilkinson said:
On another forum of which I'm a member, a serving Met. bobby posted the following comments in respect of badge changes:-
" Yep, I just worked ceremonial duty on Saturday and there was no attempt by the MPS or any of the UK and British Overseas / Commonwealth Territories police who were in my contingent to replace cap badges or any other EIIR insignia for the Coronation, unlike the military.
And having worn EIIR for 30+ years now I won’t be changing it going forward either! "It transpires that many of the military cap badges which have simply had a crown replacement (KC for QC) have been very poorly produced with a KC simply soldered over the QC, which remains in situ underneath. That alteration is from all accounts, very poorly done and very obvious in many cases.
Dave.
Interesting 👍.This chap needs to remember that he’s in a disciplined organisation, and he’ll do as he’s bl**dy well told!! 30 years wearing a Queen’s crown badge or not, when the time comes he WILL start wearing the new badge. Don’t know where he thinks he is.
Will await physically evidence with regards to soldered cap badges as well…
However I did groan, when I saw this photograph. Why she was allowed to be in the King’s presence, improperly dressed is beyond me.
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This could potentially be him, if that helps?
As Dave says the City of London museum is worth contacting. I have always found them most helpful in the past.
Point of note is that not all period officer papers exist. But you never know you might get lucky with them.
Certainly worth a try!!
Keep us posted 👍👍👍.
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Although no police officers stationed at Chingford police station came to any harm during the Second World War, an officer from Walthamstow, having taken time off from duty ar- rived home only to be cut down by shrapnel as he stood on his doorstep in Tufton Road, fumbling 'for the front door lock. The station itself was saved from major damage in spite of a number of near misses and an incident where a V2 rocket landed in Pole Hill, only 100 yards from the station.
When, at 5pm on Wednesday March 7th 1945, a Nazi V2 rocket weapon fell close to the Petty Sessions building the court was just finishing its daily business. Although it was wrecked, no-one was hurt.http://www.brynelliott.co.uk/index_htm_files/ChingfordPoliceStation1888-1998.pdf
Bombs dropped in WW2 on Chingford
http://bombsight.org/#14/51.6242/-0.0105
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Will be interesting to see, now that the King has been formally Coronated whether, we’ll start seeing King’s effigy medals, any time soon?
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Would be interested to learn, if any bars were seen at the Coronation?
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I think, it does look rather nice.
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Miniature version is available, already!!!
Looking forward to seeing it, mounted in groups.
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The medal that just keeps giving!!
Does this say 2033?
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15 hours ago, I_♥_Police said:
So will emergency services people get it who arent involved in the coronation because they are on leave but DO have five years service get it?
Formal confirmation-
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53 minutes ago, I_♥_Police said:
So will emergency services people get it who arent involved in the coronation because they are on leave but DO have five years service get it?
My understanding is that if your a serving officer (with 5 years service) on Saturday, you’ll qualify. Regardless of if your on leave or at the parade or not 👍.
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As of 15:46 hours Thursday 4th May 2023….
“Options for the effigy of the King which will be used on official medals are still under consideration. As such we are not striking any medals which carry the effigy of the King at this time.”
Regards
FOI Team
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I’ll just leave these here…
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Breaking news - 5 years service OR on the parade.
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Thought this might be of interest…
https://news.oxfordshire.gov.uk/heroic- ... -honoured/
Oxfordshire’s Lord Lieutenant, Mrs Marjorie Glasgow BEM, attended the prestigious event to present ‘Her Majesty, The Queen’s Long Service and Good Conduct’ medals to eleven firefighters, each for 20 years’ service.
The Queen’s medal title has been retained this year, even though King Charles III is the new monarch – this is due to the individuals achieving their 20 years’ service in the reign of Queen Elizabeth II and in line with the royal warrant.1 -
Thought this might be of interest…
https://news.oxfordshire.gov.uk/heroic- ... -honoured/
Oxfordshire’s Lord Lieutenant, Mrs Marjorie Glasgow BEM, attended the prestigious event to present ‘Her Majesty, The Queen’s Long Service and Good Conduct’ medals to eleven firefighters, each for 20 years’ service.
The Queen’s medal title has been retained this year, even though King Charles III is the new monarch – this is due to the individuals achieving their 20 years’ service in the reign of Queen Elizabeth II and in line with the royal warrant.0 -
MOD FOI request, confirmed that as of the 3rd April 2023 -
Medal (ER II Effigy)
Stock Held
Long Service & Good Conduct Medal 39 for the MOD Police.Long Service & Good Conduct Medal 57 for the Defence Fire & Rescue Service.
https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/ ... O.pdf.html
Of particular note is this -
To answer your third question, I can confirm that no information is held determining a policy for
when those qualifying personnel will attract award of the 'old' or 'new' style of medal.
To answer your fourth question, I can confirm that no information is held on the timeline for
procurement or issue of new LSGC medals at present.
To answer your fifth question, I can confirm that no Information is held as no designs have been
approved by His Majesty as yet.
As the Royal Mint have not been excepting orders for new medals for pushing 6 months now. It appears that not only do we have no formal answer as to when C111R medals will be released, but no concrete confirmation as to when or if E11R examples ceased to be.
Which has sort of left us in a void.
Certainly something that further generations of medal collectors will ponder 🤔 😂…0 -
On 08/04/2023 at 12:24, Cerrig-Man said:
News just in…
Doesn’t appear that there are substantial “stocks” of military LSGC’s. Can only assume that the same is true for the emergency services.
However, the following might be of further interest?
To answer your third question, I can confirm that no information is held determining a policy for
when those qualifying personnel will attract award of the 'old' or 'new' style of medal.
To answer your fourth question, I can confirm that no information is held on the timeline for
procurement or issue of new LSGC medals at present.
To answer your fifth question, I can confirm that no Information is held as no designs have been
approved by His Majesty as yet.0 -
On 08/04/2023 at 12:22, Cerrig-Man said:
News just in…
Doesn’t appear that there are substantial “stocks” of military LSGC’s. Can only assume that the same is true for the emergency services.
However, the following might be of further interest?
To answer your third question, I can confirm that no information is held determining a policy for
when those qualifying personnel will attract award of the 'old' or 'new' style of medal.
To answer your fourth question, I can confirm that no information is held on the timeline for
procurement or issue of new LSGC medals at present.
To answer your fifth question, I can confirm that no Information is held as no designs have been
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Nice 30 year bar group to the fire service.
(mounted by Mckay’s Medals and Kilts)
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Looks like the Daily Express, have jumped on the band wagon as well now…
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Yeoman Warders, modelling their new uniforms 👍👍
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It certainly is a very interesting subject!
I assume the same situation, played out with regards the allocation of silver jubilee medals?
One thing that does seem unusual, is the fact that with 2 weeks to go, the powers that be would have us believe that no medal or indeed ribbon has been confirmed, surely something like this would have been created/decided upon years ago??
Also why there is such uncertainty as to the criteria, again it’s not like they didn’t know this event would happen at some point?
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Charles III Coronation Medal
in Great Britain: Mervyn Mitton's British & Colonial Police Forces
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Whilst we await, a mounted Coronation medal medal group. We’ll have to make do with this impressive set of ribbons 👍.