bigjarofwasps

The saga continues, with regards to the criteria for the KCM. 
Although, “sources” in positions of know, believe that it’s going to be limited to Royal household members, and military personnel directly involved. Estimates of anything between 500-5000 max. Certainly nowhere near, the mass issue of previous jubilee awards. I fear there will be a lot of disappointed people, but at least EBay, won’t be flooded with them……

On 07/02/2023 at 12:21, Danny980 said:

23 years in the Army (Irish Guards) and 22 years in the Metropolitan Police, and still going!!

Smashing group Danny, thanks for sharing!!!!!

In other news, am hearing rumours that the next generation of LSGC’s won’t appear for at least another 12 months!! Not sure of the source or how much credence, to draw from this rumour. But if I’m honest I wouldn’t be at all surprised! 
 

Interesting mock up doing the rounds, which I thought might be of interest?

Have to say, I like the ribbon. Although what the green signifies, I’m not sure about..? 

19 hours ago, Megan said:

The King appears to be going for simplicity in his official iconography. The new stamps have just been released:

 

No crown, not on his head or even anywhere on the stamp. It's the same portrait as on what coinage has so far been seem... so it seems likely that it will also be used for medals.

Interesting, thanks Megan. 

Surely medals can’t be much longer now, can they?? 
 

Now stamps…..

Looks like they served in the Middle East as well. So this medal could potentially be for either or both these campaigns, perhaps? 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Grenadiers

Putting all historic delays in the issuing of LSGC’s aside for a moment.

I thought forum members might be of interest to learn, that the Royal Mint are currently not excepting any orders for new LSGC’s.
Just how long that has been in effect and how long it is expected to last, hasn’t been confirmed.

But it doesn’t bold well, if historically there was a standard delay.

Now coupled with this newest delay, which one would assume is due to the changing of effigy, and assumably delays due to Covid.

Just how much of a backlog there was prior to this and just how big this backlog is increasing by, doesn’t bear thinking about……!

The delays at the Royal Mint, compounded by bureaucracy like this aren’t helping the situation, in relation to the distribution of medals…..

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/king-charles-honour-nuclear-test-29070465.amp

On 24/01/2023 at 09:43, Zulu_00 said:

Ebola Medal and Rhodesia Medal sort of format so! Still, better than nothing at all.

Thought this might be of interest?

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/king-charles-honour-nuclear-test-29070465.amp

1 hour ago, Zulu_00 said:

Seen on Facebook

I fear this is…….

Appears that the Nuclear Medal is not to be a medal in the true sense of the word……
 

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/advisory-military-sub-committee/advisory-military-sub-committee-recommendations-november-2022

West Midlands Police, had an award ceremony on Tuesday night (17th January), whereby 30 year bars were awarded. 

 

*LSGC’s were also presented. These medals bearing the E11R effigy, although when these officers physically qualified for their medals, I have not been able to confirm. 

Fascinating stuff Alan, thanks for sharing 👍. 

Happened across this whilst surfing EBay.

“A copy four medal group, full size, MC Military Cross, GSM with two clasps GULF, NORTHERN IRELAND, Falklands with Rosette and Army LSGC medal, all named except LSGC, MC  named 24062272 WO2 D A STIMPSON RAOC, rank on GSM is CPL.”

Someone has clearly, gone to some expense to create this group?
 

Is it a copy group of a genuine group, or complete fantasy?

Cracking write up thanks for sharing.

He was lucky he wasn’t shot! I suspect had all those AWOL taken place in France, he would have been? 

https://blog.cpmcoins.com/2022/11/11/breaking-first-uk-sovereign-featuring-king-charles-iii-announced/?utm_campaign=uk+king+charles+iii+sovereign+teaser&utm_content=post&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter

King Charles III Britannia, released.

These coins are available to pre-order from 9am on Tuesday 17th January 2023.

Despatch of 2023 King Charles III Britannia 1oz & 1/10oz gold coins, & 1oz silver coins, is scheduled to begin on 24th January 2023. Other weights will be despatched at a later date, subject to The Royal Mint's discretion.

King Charles III Silver Britannia.

https://www.royalmint.com/invest/bullion/bullion-coins/silver-coins/britannia-2023-1-oz-silver-bullion-coin-king-charles-iii/

I am aware from another platform, that a chap who qualified for his cadet forces LSGC on the 22nd of September 2022 has been informed that his medal is currently at his HQ. It has been confirmed as bearing the E11R effigy. Another chap qualified for his in December, but is still awaiting his. Will be interesting to see which effigy his bears? 
 

24 minutes ago, Deelibob said:

I notice that on the ROH that the entry for a PC John Smith bears just the word "Train" for cause of death. Does anyone know what such a bland statement would mean ?

Accident/suicide etc ?.

According to 

https://policememorial.org.uk/memories/john-smith-4/

Killed when run over by a train in a railway tunnel at Wood Green while on his beat at night.

On 04/01/2023 at 18:47, Zulu_00 said:

 

Rumour is same as QPJM but I'm a bit skeptical

More and more rumbles appearing about this being a very limited issue affair….

I was reading on another forum, about the company that make them, expressing concerns that time was moving on if a mass production was to be requested, in order have them produced in time……….

Having said that the Royal Mint are certainly in no hurry to release, any new medals either, so who knows? 
 

3 hours ago, Megan said:

You're quite right, Zulu_00. The cypher has already been designed, so they just need to mint them.

 

Police, Fire, and Ambulance medals will need new obverses. And my website will need updating!

The Royal Mint certainly don’t appear to be in any hurry!
 

The suspense is killing me 😱😂😂😂

Very much looking forward to reading them 👍👍.
 

Perhaps he deserves a thread of his very own? 

1 hour ago, Megan said:

Most of the New Year Honours relate to orders whose design doesn't change as the monarch does, it's just BEMs, Royal Victorian Medals and the like which require a new obverse.

Does that mean do you think, that none change awards will be issued at an earlier date than those that require updating?
I’m thinking of the King’s Police, Fire and Ambulance Medals, for example? 

On 07/01/2023 at 09:04, bigjarofwasps said:

Thought this might be of interest?

https://www.polfed.org/news/latest-news ... uct-medal/


Of particular interest is this paragraph…


“The Royal Mint is currently in the process of redesigning a number of medals to display the image of King Charles III which could lead to delay for those eligible for a bar.”

I have learned from another platform, that West Midlands Police, are holding ceremony next week, during which 30 year bars will be awarded. Curious that these are available already despite the Royal Mint stating that there will be delays whilst they rectify the redesigning of effigy on a number of medals.
 

Further to this, would be interested to learn when the New Years honours medals, will be formally presented. I would assume that these medals had been struck prior to there announcement?