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On 02/11/2022 at 17:54, I_♥_Police said:

Nothing unfortunately and a Google search reveals little. Shame really.

Saw this which, I thought might be of interest? 

“King Charles III is the oldest monarch to assume the British throne at 73 years old.”

The reason why, I mention this is that I have heard rumours that the 8th September might be the qualification date for the Coronation Medal as apposed to the 6th May……

Things seem to be coming together, (with NWP anyway)….. The May 2002 intake of officers, were formally presented with their LSGC’s a week or so ago (6 months or so after the fact - now whether this delay was as a result in the whole process or due to an appropriate venue being available I cannot say). Interestingly these medals should be the last NWP officers to receive the E11R version, as the next intake wasn’t until October 2002.

Would be interested to hear, if other forces HR departments have also turned over a new leaf, in relation to a prompter awarding system…..

A few feet away from Constable Tyler’s grave. Is the grave of 10 year old Ralph Joscelyne, who was also shot and killed during this incident. 

Given that the LSGC was introduced in 1951, to officers who have the requisite amount of service. I suspect that Gv1R LSGC’s to very senior officers, could thus potentially be relatively common, as they could potentially be in their 29 or 30 years of service by the time it came into being.
I would also assume that the rank on their medal would be that at the time the medal was instituted, as apposed to the rank they had achieved on their 22nd year?

Where as examples to very senior officers with regards to the E11R version would be far rarer (if exist at all?). 
 

Any thoughts? 
 

Have contacted the Royal Mint, requesting clarification as to what’s actually intended to happen with regards the issuing of police LSGC’s post 8th September. My request has been acknowledged and forwarded on to the relevant department…..

Old thread, but interesting. 
 

Do you wear your originals or copies?

Personally I wear my originals, my thinking being that’s what there designed for. Although I do understand why people would want to keep their originals in there boxes.

Long gone are the days of officers only having an LSGC. Not unusual now to see officers with 3 or 4 medals.

Starts getting a bit expensive, buying copies and getting them mounted!

On 03/12/2006 at 00:11, Tony Farrell said:

I would be interested to hear if anyone has one of these in their collection - both pre-1935 and post-1968 issues, with a particular emphasis on naming styles. Also interested in Seychelles variants.

 

Did any of these ever turn up Tony?

On 01/03/2007 at 02:53, Guest Darrell said:

k. Medal Reverse:

Curious to learn, whether these medals, have been updated to C111R now? 

On 07/07/2020 at 15:11, NormanW said:

Has anyone come across any badges/insignia of the Gilbert & Ellis Islands Constabulary please?  They were a Pacific British protectorate from 1892 and colony from 1916 until 1 January 1976 when they became independent as Tuvalu and Kiribati.

There are some documents referenced in the National Library of Australia, but nothing is available online.

NW

Would they have been awarded the British Police LSGC, in the same way that Australia, Papua New Guinea and Nauru, were?

On 10/11/2018 at 09:42, dpk said:

As part of my collecting police medals, I am keen to acquire an 1887 City of London Police Jubilee medal (with or without the 1897 bar). If anyone has one for sale, or can recommend likely sources (eg other collectors, or dealers etc) I would be most grateful!

Please contact me via the group or at email dpk@iinet.net.au)

Thought this book might be of interest?

On a recent trip to London, I visited Abney Park Cemetery. The last resting place of Police Constable William Tyler.
 

I took these photographs, which I thought might be of interest?
 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tottenham_Outrage

1 hour ago, Megan said:

Instituted 5 July 1996.

That is interesting, I wonder why there is a Scottish version, but not a Welsh or Northern Ireland version? ☹️

2 hours ago, Tony Farrell said:

There you go.

How interesting!! When did these medals come into existence?

On 30/11/2022 at 15:23, Dave Wilkinson said:

I have uploaded images of the full-sized medal under the heading "Jersey Honorary Police Long Service Medal - Images"

 

Dave.  

Greatly appreciated.
 

Would very much like to see a C111R example, when such a thing becomes available, if your contact is in a position to do that for us? 

The rolling count of physical examples that I’ve actually seen are as follows…

3 to Cwnst

1 to Rhing

1 to Prif Arol

23 hours ago, Dave Wilkinson said:

I would have thought that there must be several more Ch.Insps. in NWP who have had their LS medals issued with their rank in Welsh. But perhaps not. But I do appreciate the "unique" point you make. I still find it really odd that the other Welsh forces don't seem to have embraced the concept of giving staff the option of having their medals named with their rank in Welsh. They are obviously not interested, or else the possibility has not occurred to them. 

 

Dave.

Considering the option to have a Welsh engraved medal has been around for some 14 years now, it is very surprising that none to my knowledge have appeared on the market yet? 

NWP issue them on a general 50/50 percentage. As far as I’m aware none of the other 3 Welsh forces issue them at all!! 

It should also be considered that it is, no longer possible to qualify for an E11R version….
 

13 hours ago, Dave Wilkinson said:

I suppose that to a certain extent his "appointment" as Chief Special is something of an anomaly. Normally such positions are filled by "career" members of the SC who have climbed the SC rank ladder and have long service. I see that he does not have an SC LS medal. Presumably he will not become eligible until he completes the required period of voluntary service. Also, I'm assuming that he's not being paid to fill the position. If he is he will be ineligible under the current terms of the Royal Warrant, unless it's been amended.   

 

I don't think the grouping is unique as such. The Staffs. SC I quoted in the previous post has all those medals (except Kosovo) plus, the SC LS medal and bar. If your man serves long enough to achieve this, I'd agree, probably unique.

 

Dave.

 

I seem to recall that he is in fact paid as the Special CC, so as you say he won’t potentially qualify for an additional LSGC. I assume also that he is not expecting a Coronation medal as he’s only had his medals mounted in the last few days.

As Zulu notes, the point I was trying to relate was. I’m not aware of any other Prif Arol LSGC’s,  let alone a group that also includes the Kosovo medal and an MBE. But I do take your point about all the medals being general run of the mill in their own right. It’s just the Welsh engraving that sets them apart from other police medals, which I particularly like. 

On 27/11/2022 at 15:55, Dave Wilkinson said:

Regular bobbies who have the PLSM and an SC medal are not unusual. There was a Det. Con. in my last force (Dover Port Police) who prior to joining was in receipt of an SC medal with bar (South Wales Police). In the fullness of time, he received his PLSM and a compliment of jubilee medals. He recently retired.

 

I know of a regular bobby in Staffs., who immediately after retiring (with PLSM) joined the SC. He now has the SC LS medal and bar plus jubilee medals and an MBE for his continued contribution to policing and the community. He's still serving in the SC and has said he will retire after the Coronation. I wonder why he's hanging on??

 

Dave. 

Thought this group might be of interest.
 

Possibly unique…? 

LSGC is engraved in Welsh Prif Arol (C/Insp), recipient then went on to be the CC of the Special Constabulary. 

It appears that these are the final Britannias to feature Queen Elizabeth II on the obverse.

The Queen Elizabeth II coins will have a short production run, with a second bullion Britannia design being issued in the new year. The new coin will feature the King Charles III effigy, by Martin Jennings.

On 29/11/2022 at 10:06, Zulu_00 said:

https://hansard.parliament.uk/Commons/2022-11-22/debates/F4B07DE6-8235-4393-8DE3-D40A7550BF01/NuclearTestVeteransMedals

 

"The Prime Minister yesterday announced the creation of a new medal, the nuclear test medal, which has been graciously approved by His Majesty the King."

 

Looks like it will be a new medal altogether and not a GSM from the wording of this!

Certainly does read that way doesn’t it!

Also curious “graciously approved by the king”, what do we read into that?
 

King’s effigy?

First C111R medal?

Anymore examples out there? 

First photograph, of 30 year bar. This group I’m informed belongs to the Chief Constable of the Isle of Man Constabulary.

Personally, I think it looks rather nice! 

Has anyone seen any further examples of this medal? Not aware of any coming onto the market. 
 

Wonder whether, this medal will

also include the 30 and 40 year bars like the police LSGC? 
 

Still yet to see an example of the full size version of this medal. Surely it must be the rarest of British police medals? Coupled now with the changed of effigy, would be interesting to see what premium such an example would command, should one ever come into the market!