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Gold Doubloon - Lima mint. 

The holey dollar was created to address a shortage of coins in the new colony. Governor Lachlan Macquarie imported 40,000 Spanish reales in 1812 and had convicted forger William Henshall cut the centre out of each, to double the number of available coins.

The coins were counterstamped and the outer ring became known as the holey dollar, with the centre renamed the dump.

Macquarie set the value of the holey dollar at five shillings, with 15 pence for the dump. These coins went into circulation in 1814 and were replaced with sterling coinage from 1822. The National Museum’s holey dollar is one of about 300 in existence.

Further reading: https://www.nma.gov.au/explore/collection/highlights/holey-dollar?fbclid=IwAR3HDI27LQVzy8HriTigYP1M6aC8Un5StKmdrK77abS7zJJn9vo3cGjpmJo#:~:text=Macquarie set the value of,of about 300 in existence
(National Museum of Australia)

Have found this a useful tool, for identifying Colonial Spanish Mint Marks…

Another interesting bit of information, 

The Cerro Rico de Potosí was the richest source of silver in the history of mankind. The extraction of mineral ores in Cerro Rico de Potosí began in 1545 by the Spanish Empire. Between the 16th and 18th century, 80% of the world's silver supply came out of this mine.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cerro_Rico#:~:text=The Cerro Rico de Potosí,came out of this mine.
 

I suppose with this information, it’s not unreasonable to speculate about whether the silver from this coin, was mined in Bolivia ?? at some point prior to it travel to the Mexico City Mint? 

Thought this might be of interest?

It would appear the Royal Mint are now producing medals again, in earnest, to

clear the backlog, as a result of the pandemic.

Not aware of any further developments on the Police LSGC bar(s) as of yet.

The anticipated Covid Pandemic medal, appears to have fallen by the wayside, by the sounds of things? There being no further sounds about it, being case and point…….

42 minutes ago, Dave Wilkinson said:

The photo appears to show Metropolitan Police officers, not City of London.

 

City of London Police have always used brass/anodised buttons and numerals on their uniforms.

 

Dave. 

I concur, these are definitely not City of London bobbies, you can tell by their helmets. 

On 28/04/2022 at 11:38, Zulu_00 said:

Anymore updates in the last month?

Nothing from the U.K. ☹️

SUPT.J.E.VAN LIER. 
Royal Papua New Guinea Constabulary.

On 12/04/2022 at 07:16, Danny980 said:

I'm a serving Metropolitan Police officer.
They fell behind due to COVID. The Royal Mint were very slow in producing. 
I was presented with my medal recently, a year late. 
The MPS now hold ceremonies about every three months and must have nearly caught up. 
The chap who runs it now is very good. I identified one of my colleagues who had still not received his medal, several years later. 
He wasn't particularly concerned but I was. 
This was immediately rectified. 
Officers still get the choice of attending a ceremony in central London or having the medal posted to their Borough Commander. 
As an ex-Guardsman I am fortunate to have both the army and police LSGC medals. 
With regards to the Platinum Jubilee medal.

The Metropolitan Police are not issuing until May. 
Sad to see so many up for sale online already from other forces. 

Would very much like to see a photo of your medals, when you get them mounted!

Unconfirmed reports, are suggesting that rumours are abound, that a bar to the Police LSGC, may soon become a reality. Suggestions being that the criteria of award will

be every subsequent 10 years after the initial 20 year qualification period.

watch this space…..

(Source being a Home Counties CC’s blog….)

On 23/03/2022 at 20:37, Nick said:

But why do emergency services deserve an official Queens medal and a supermarket worker have to make do with some piece of corporate junk that is not worth anything ? Seems unfair when the risk of exposure was just as great. For example UK Border Force were issued with some cheap challenge coin which was considered pretty worthless by most recipients (and they didn't qualify for the platinum  jubilee medal either). 

 

 Lots of inconsistencies in how the UK Government decides who gets awards and rewards. I am sure many NHS workers have preferred the bonus payment to a medal, but don't see why receiving this should preclude them from a medal if it was to be awarded. 

 

At the end of the day I will be surprised if such a medal happens. You have to weigh up who was deserving and this is a difficult thing to assess. Just because someone works for the NHS shouldn't make it an automatic award criteria, any more than someone who is military unless deployed in direct support of the pandemic. 

 

 

Interesting that the U.K. border agency didn’t get the Platinum Jubilee Medal, that did surprise me. I would have thought them being crown servants they would have qualified. This kinda blows the theory about Morrisons not being crown servants and thus not entitled to any Covid Medal out of te water.
But I suspect your quite correct, such an award would be fraught with danger, and perhaps left well alone….

Think it was Churchill that said a medal glitters also cast a shadow, in essence whatever they may come up with, someone will be disappointed. I guess they’ll just have to weigh up, how much disappointment can they justify…..

4 hours ago, Nick said:

Trouble with such an award is who actually deserves it. ? Yes some frontline NHS staff working with sick COVID patients indeed deserve it, as do other care workers working in the community. Some emergency services and some military personnel who assisted medical services also deserve it. But what about the host of other essential workers that continued working in frontline public facing jobs in the darkest days of lockdown, pre vaccination. Just take supermarket staff who continued to serve the public keeping shops open for essential goods putting themselves at risk during those dark days. Just too many people to count and I think it would be wrong to just reward those that wear a public service uniform. Makes the whole thing unfeasable.

I fear you might be correct.
 

But would the NHS even qualify?

They have after all had a £500 bonus.

The other emergency services didn’t get anything.

Other countries appear to have managed their awards without issue? 

Re other none public services, nothing stopping Morrisons for example awarding their staff a medal or giving them a pandemic bonus.

I believe a medal for the emergency services is the least that could be done. 
 

Surely there must have been people who didn’t qualify for the WW2 defence medal, yet whose service was just as admiral as the next person, who did qualify for one. 

47 minutes ago, Paul463 said:

Hi, is this the real thing? Is there a link to it please?

Sadly, I don’t think it is. Popped up on a Twitter feed. I think that if any such medal was going to be awarded in the U.K. it would have been announced long ago.  Especially when you consider how quickly the Ebola Medal and recent clasp for the OSM with regards to Afghanistan where conceived, produced and awarded. I think people are just generally sick of Covid (pardon the pun), and it and any metallic recognition for it, will soon be consigned to history (in the U.K. anyway). 

On 06/03/2022 at 17:49, Zulu_00 said:

Any new ones?

On 06/03/2022 at 17:49, Zulu_00 said:

Still holding out hope that there may yet be a U.K. version…

Interesting to see, so many countries issuing Covid medals (& the US having 4). Britain still to issue one, if at all. The last I heard was that Australia, weren’t now intending adding a bar to their NEM, but instead having a new OSM, but I guess we’ll just have to wait and see with regards that.  

It appears that consideration is being given to adding a Covid related clasp to the Australian National Emergency Medal? 
 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Emergency_Medal

4497 Const P A Green, issued 1988. 

Would be interested to hear from Officers would have experienced delays in the issuing of their LSGC’s following qualification. I have heard accounts recently from Officers, who qualified 2+ years ago and are still waiting to receive their medals, despite repeated emails and phone conversations with HR departments.

Is there problem with production at the mint, or is it that the forces aren’t applying for the medals effectively enough?

Am surprised to learn the RNLI LSGC is not an official one!! Surely if any organisation deserves an official long service Medal it’s the RNLI. Have any efforts ever been made to seek an official award for these people? 

“NO SHOW PANDA"

2020 China 50g Silver Panda
ANA World's Fair Of Money SHOW PANDA 
Pandemic Emergency Cancellation.

The 2020 World Fair Of Money, in Pittsburg was cancelled  due to the World Wide Covid Pandemic. However, these Pandas had already been minted.

Does anyone collect New Zealand Police Medals?

Would very much like to see what singles or groups people have in their collections.

Would also be interested to learn what if any research potential, can be discovered.

16 hours ago, Zulu_00 said:

 

 

 

 

 

Australian Border Force Operation Medal with COVID-19 Response Clasp.

 

Medal is regularly sized compared to ribbon, the angle of the picture is the reason it looks big.

 

 Nice medal. Is this an official award?

https://www.coventrytelegraph.net/in-your-area/nuneatons-hospital-praised-boris-johnson-22877351.amp
 

During Prime Minister's Question Time earlier today (January 26) he spoke about the special medal that has been given to staff and volunteers at the George Eliot Hospital to honour their efforts during the pandemic.

He said that the government plans to follow suit and issue a national measure to mark the efforts of NHS workers.

The PM made the announcement after Craig Tracey, Bedworth and North Warwickshire's MP, spoke during the weekly event in the Commons.

"The George Eliot Hospital has recently issued all of its staff, volunteers and helpers with a medal in recognition of the work they have done and continue to do through the Covid pandemic," Mr Tracey said.

"Would the Prime Minister join me in thanking them for their incredible work they have done, including the specialist teams such as palliative care, who have had to act as surrogate families for patients whose family have been unable to attend due to restrictions.

"Will he consider following their lead and issuing a national service medal for all of our key workers who have done such an outstanding job keeping our country going through the pandemic."

The Prime Minister replied: "I am pleased that so many of the volunteers and staff at the George Eliot Hospital have been recognised. I have seen the medal and I think it is lovely.

"As I have told the House before, we are establishing a UK commission on Covid commemoration to consider how we can commemorate everything we have all been through."