Claudio
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No, unfortunately not... I just bought the medals, there were no documents.
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A Badener one...
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A couple of bars, newly purchased...
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Dear forumites,
I wanted to present to you a small and simple medal bar, but with a quite uncommon combination of awards. You don't see so often the cross of honor for widows and parent's of the fallen soldier on a medal.
Please feel free to show yours.
ciao,
Claudio
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Hi Claudius,
I bid on it until 1300, but it went for 1400 and should have bid 1500 but it was too much for me, because I had a feeling that if I bid 1500, the price would have gone up even more. Too bad because I really liked that bar; the provenience was also well documented and interesting.
Ciao,
Claudio
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File Name: Godet: Wie trage ich meine Orden?
File Submitter: Claudio
File Submitted: 01 Jan 2015
File Category: Germany
Late 20ies early 30ies booklet printed by the firm J. Godet anoklet about how to wear medal & ribbon bars, miniature chains or lapel bows on different military and civilian clothes.
Enjoy!
ciao,
Claudio
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Judging from the pin construction and the colour of the textile backing this ribbon bar could well be a "Godet" piece... )))
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When that Tuxedo bar with miniatures was sold by the Auction house it came with 2 or 3 photo albums and other stuff belonging to the group or at least to the family's tuxedo bar wearer... Very likely this group was split to maximise profit!
Too bad that I couldn't purchase it in the first place; I would have surely kept together!
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Hi Paul,
My brother for sure... just Thursday and Friday. I can't unfortunately! :-(
Looking forward to seeing your pictures...
Ciao,
Claudio
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Great picture, Christophe... Thanks a lot!
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Unfortunately I couldn't get this one at a German auction lately, nevertheless it's a cute Frackspange with its miniature chain...
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Dear forumites,
Here's the ribbon bar I am after... ;-)
Plus they offer also this document:
Los Nr. 242: Verleihungsurkunde der Militär-Kanzlei des Großherzogs zum Kreuz I. Klasse für den Hauptmann v. d. Hellen, datiert Oldenburg am 8. März 1915, mit Originalunterschrift des Oberst v. Jordan, mit handschriftlicher Bemerkung Jordans am Rand "Herzl. Gruß / J.", mehrfach gefaltet, min. eingerissen.1, II, Taxe: 50,00 €
I am definitely bidding on both of them!
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Salut Christophe!
I know about his ribbon bar and also a document which will be sold soon... of course I will try to reunite them with the medal bar!
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This is the photo from Beyreiss book showing v. d. Hellen with von Hindenburg in 1927 during the inauguration of a monument in Oldenburg... That was surely the bar he wore before adding the Ehrenkreuz für Frontkämpfer...
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Thanks my friends...
Yes it's quite a wonderful medal bar and although it's not a Godet, it comes with a nice dealer's label of Hannover, which is known to me... much rarer to find than a Godet! ;)
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Dear forumites!
I'm proud to present to you a spectacular Oldenburg medal bar of Hauptmann von der Hellen, personal Adjutant of GFM von Hindenburg (there's a small picture of him on Beyreiss book about Oldenburg's orders and medals, wearing his medal bar).
Here's the description of his decorations:
- Preussen: eisernes Kreuz 2. Klasse, 1914;
- Preussen: RK des Königlichen Hausordens von Hohenzollern mit Schwertern (ritzmarke „s & W”, silberstempel und „937“);
- Oldenburg: RK 2. Klasse des Haus- und Verdienstordens von Herzog Peter Friedrich Ludwig mit Krone und Schwertern;
- Oldenburg: Friedrich-August-Kreuz 2. Klasse mit Bandspange „vor dem Feinde”;
- Bayern: Militär-Verdienstorden 4. Klasse mit Schwertern;
- Sachsen: RK 1. Klasse des Albrecht-Ordens mit Schwertern (Stempel „s”);
- Braunschweig: Kriegsverdienstkreuz 2. Klasse;
- Lippe-Detmold: Kriegsverdienstkreuz am Kämpferband;
- 3. Reich: Ehrenkreuz für Frontkämpfer;
- Preussen: Kronen-Orden 4. Klasse;
- Preussen: DA-Kreuz für 25 Dienstjahre der Offiziere;
- Oldenburg: RK 2. Klasse des Haus- und Verdienstordens von Herzog Peter friedrich Ludwig.
Unfortunately I couldn't find anything about his career. Would be somebody here on this very forum so kind to share a bit of information about this "obscure" officer and his career? Indeed being close to such a military personality like v. Hindenburg did influence a lot the fact that he got so many orders, very likely without ever seen the frontline as a Staff Officer.
Thanks you very much in advance for looking into this thread and for your most appreciated comments on it.
ciao,
Claudio
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Strange... Saint Anna Order should have red enamels (see http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Order_of_St._Anna) ... Maybe on black & white pictures it seems white but in reality it's red, like some yellow ribbons on b&w pictures look very dark...
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The inscription (engraving) looks newer as the medal... no patina around or in the inscription... Turkish written in arabic letters is quite hard to decipher, because very few use it today (since Atatürk, it is used latin alphabet), but it would be nice to see what can be read and if it's free of possible orthographic mistakes...
I'm a bit skeptical, but it's just me!
ciao,
Claudio
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Please show the back of the bar... if it's covered with dark blue or black textile piece, then it could be very well Kriegsmarine... ;-)
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I wish... I Don't have 350000 euro to spend for one group... Even though it's of historical importance like this one... ;)
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Hii Paul,
He didn't wear them on the medal bar because very likely wore them around the neck... (Higher classes of the Olympia-Ehrenzeichen, SEHO komturkreuz with swords and Volkspflege-Ehrenzeichen)... ;)
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Hi Paul!
I would be interested! ;-) Of course ideally would be to add some newly adquired information or colour pictures, but I guess that would dramatically increase the work to be put into it, and that without any financial compensation, in order to keep the price low.
ciao,
Claudio
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Adolf Hitler's Iron Cross and other awards
in Germany: All Eras: The Iron Cross
Posted · Edited by Claudio
Dear forumites,
I was intrigued by a set of awards personally owned by our "beloved" (pun intended) Führer (Gröfaz, grösster Führer aller Zeiten) put for sale on a Munich auction (HH). The awards themselves don't strike for particular beauty; they are of the most common variant of making, typical of the 30ies, and the affidavit/declaration signed in the late 60ies by Hitler's housekeeper, Mrs. Anny Brunner-Winter, who was at his Munich apartment in Prinzregentplatz 16 from 1929 to 1945 and allegedly received them as a present by the Boss in person, seem to be a bit far fetched. Any food for thoughts?
Ciao,
Claudio
Here's a complete description:
Lot Nr. 6261
Adolf Hitler - an Iron Cross 1st Class
Plain, silvered convex issue on a vertical attachment pin. Dimensions 42 x 42 mm. 1930s production, without maker's designation.
Hitler was awarded this high decoration on 4 August 1918 as a Gefreiter (Lance Corporal) and combat despatch runner while serving with 3rd Company, Bavarian Reserve Infantry Regiment no. 16 (List) (tr.) "because as a despatch runner he demonstrated exemplary coolness, he rescued his heavily wounded company chief from the zone of fire, and through a coup de main accomplished the capture of 12 French with their officer." On 9 May Hitler had received a regimental diploma for outstanding bravery during this operation.
Also included is a written attestation dated 4 October 1969 by Anny Brunner-Winter, Hitler's housekeeper at his Munich apartment on Prinzregentenplatz 16 from 1929 to 1945, that this Iron Cross 1st Class came from the personal possession of Hitler, together with an old photo from the contemporary history photo archives of Heinrich Hoffmann showing Hitler wearing his ribbon of the Bavarian Military Merit Cross, the Iron Cross 1st Class and the Wound Badge in Black.