Claudio

Hi Sascha,

I completely confused this bar with another bar I posted on the thread "Gunzenhausen, show what you bought"...

This bar has nothing to do with v. Loewenfeld and you are completely right!

My fault... sorry! :unsure:

Ciao,

Claudio

He's probably started collecting in1920's and got most of the medals for 10 Reich Marks

I've just noticed that he got a Bänderkatalog there in fine condition. PDF copy of that would be nice to have.

He begun to collect in the 60ies, now he's mid 60.

C

Yeah... you're right Vince... and it is just the tip of the iceberg of his collection. I know him personally and was invited to his home and he showed me his huge collection (with focus on Bavaria). Incredible! Some of the pieces I saw again at Gunzenhausen, I remember very distinctly, like the King of Bulgaria's ribbon bar and some of the huge miniature chains with Golden orders.

There was more there in his war room in the basement than at the Bavarian Army Museum in Ingolstadt!

Ciao,

Claudio

Thanks Glenn!

Any Bavarian connections? He got a MVO4kr and a MVO3KrX (late WWI)...

C

Claudio,

Here is Kraemer's career up to 1914

Karl Kraemer (12.07.1861-)

21.02.11-1914 Ing. Offiz. v. Platz i. Metz O, v. 4. Ing. Insp.

27.01.07-21.02.11 Mitgl. d. Ing. Komm., U.d. 3. Ing. Insp.

(1906)-27.01.07 k.z. Dienstl. b. Ing. Komm., v. 3. Ing. Insp.

1905-1906 z. Fortif. Dienst i. Straßburg v. 3. Ing. Insp.

1901-1904 Lehr. a.d. Kr. Sch. i. Engers, U.d. Pion. B. 16

1898-1900 Chef 4./Pion. B. 16 (Metz)

18.07.96-1897 in 4./Pion. B. 16 (Metz)

14.09.93-18.07.96 Adj. b. 2. Ing. Insp. (Berlin) v. 2. Ing. Insp.

1892-14.09.93 Adj. d. 3. Fest. Insp. (Posen) v. 2. Ing. Insp.

1889-1891 z. Fortif. Dienst i. Posen v. 2. Ing. Insp.

1886-1888 in 1./Pion. B. 16 (Metz)

1884-1885 k.z. Art. u. Ing. Sch. v. 3. Ing. Insp.

1883 in 2./Pion. B. 14 (Kehl)

Oberstlt. 22-03-14 N

Major 27-01-08 G2g

Hptm. 27-01-97 D6d1

Oblt. 18-03-92

Leutn. 13-09-82

Orden 1914

PRAO4 PDK BMV4mKr

Andy

Thanks!!!!!

Now I just need a picture of him wearing either his ribbon or medal bar... easy! :whistle:

On the Rangliste of 1914 (pp 130 & 482) I found him as "Ing. Offiz. v. Platz i. Metz", RAO4 PrDA25 BMV4mKr, i. d. 4. Ing., Insp. (4. Ingenieur-Inspektion), 27.01.1908 G2g

Dear forumites,

I am looking for more information about a Oberst z.D. Kraemer...

I already thank you all who can help gather interesting data about this office; I really appreciate!

Ciao,

Claudio

back...

14 (!) place old style ribbon bar, big brother of no. 17...

Well, if you calculate that every miniature is about 16mm, I think it could be 25-30 cm long, if you strech it completely! :speechless1:

Last but not least a nice selection of rare Bavarian LS medals and miniatures...

A potpourri of different German states (pre 1918) miniatures... (sorry for the out of the focus pictures.... maybe also the photo camera was impressed by this spectacle!)

A beautiful selection of Saxon miniatures...

Among others also a PLM... incredible! :speechless1:

Some cute an very rare Bavarian miniatures! These are very looked after in Germany... lots of Bavarian medals & orders collectors...

Described by the exhibitionist as history of the evolution of the ribbon bars... ;-)

Incredible selection of old (1866-1871) Bavarian minitures with lots LS awards...

Impressive array of very very long Miniaturkettchen...

A splendid conditioned Godet's Miniaturkettchen in its original case... all the principal orders are made of GOLD! :love:

Ribbon bar of the king of Bulgaria with lots of interesting enamaled ribbon devices...

Prussian miniatures... a bit out of focus and too bright flash light... sorry! ;)

anther one... maybe better quality picture...

Some rare original miniature medal bars (also mounted as Frackspange - civilian tuxedo bars)...

Some nice Miniaturkettchen... :whistle:

Original dealer ribbon board...