Claudio

His obituary... can somebody transcribe what is hand-written? I am quite able to read and understand the most but not everything...

His final discharge confirmation sent by certified mail:

His WWI discharge (5th December 1918):

Before his discharge he was commanded to be stationed 3 months in France (Paris). Now I understand why he did want to stay as an active officer in service! :whistle:

A discharge letter from his superior (Oberst Kdr Wehrbezirk Offenburg/Baden) competent for his military district in WW2. It seems that, although Meurer was eager to stand at disposal for being re-called into active military service, had to regrettably make place for younger officer... (that was in August of 1943).

His document to the HHOX:

Very interesting: his Wundzettel (Wound-Card for transportation). These kind of cards are very rare to find, since most of them were used and thrown away. Hptm Meurer kept it as a "souvenir"... :jumping:

Thanks Chris!

Here's the dok of the so called Hindenburg cross (FEK)

Vorl. BZ EK2

Location of Suwalki

Auszug for his EK1

His "vorläufiges Besitzzeugnis" (temporary entitlement doc) for his EK1 on the Eastern front...

Here a close up of the memorabilia which Meurer kept in his box; as you can see there are also 3 metal pieces stored in the lower left hand corner of the box. These are the shrapnels extracted from his body (as he noted "08.06.18, 6 Uhr 30 vormittag in Vassens durch Artilleriegeschoss am Kopf, Rücken und linken Unterschenkel schwer verwundet und dem Feldlazarett 56 überwiesen").

Location of Vassens

Dear forumites,

It was quite a while ago that I didn't post anything. This group is nothing new in my collection, but I just wanted to show it to you, because there are many interesting documents. This veteran kept all his documents and collected his medals in a especially made box.

Ordensspange:

• Preußen, Eisernes Kreuz 1914, 2. Klasse (OEK 1909)

• Preußen, Kgl. Hausorden von Hohenzollern, Kreuz der Ritter mit Schwertern (OEK 1789), Sv punziert J GuS 938 (Godet und Sohn, Berlin)

• Deutsches Reich 1933-45, Ehrenkreuz für Frontkämpfer (OEK 3803/1), Herst. 86 R.V. Pforzheim

• Baden, Orden vom Zähringer der Löwen, RK 2. Kl. mit Schwertern (OEK 157)

Medaillen:

• Preußen, Eisernes Kreuz 1914, 1. Kl. (OEK 1908), Hersteller W-S, Sy & Wagner Berlin

• Preußen, Eisernes Kreuz 1914, 1. Kl. (OEK 1908), Anfertigung um 1930

• Deutsches Reich 1871-1918, Verwundetenabzeichen in Silber für drei- und viermalige Verwundung, Hohl geprägt ohne Nadel (OEK 3293)

• Weimarer Republik, Kyffhäuser-Kriegsdenkmünze 1914-18 mit Frontkämpferabzeichen, Schwertern am Band (DN 2.02.33 a/b)

• Weimarer Republik, Der Stahlhelm-Anstecknadel, Herst. N&H GES. GESCH.

Urkunden des Hauptmannes der Reserve z.V. Max Meurer

(geb. in Lahr im Breisgau, Kr. Offenburg, Grhzg. Baden am 15.06.1883, verstorben in Lahr am 29.06.1960)

Auszeichungen:

21. April 1915 Vorläufiges Besitzzeugnis des EK 2. Kl., Kdr. der Mun.-Kol. u. Trains XXXIX Res.-Korps

31. August 1916 Vorläufiges Besitzzeugnis des EK 1. Kl., Staffelstab 391 der 77. Res. Division

15. Dezember 1915 RK des Ordens Zähringer der Löwen, 2. Kl., keine Urkunde, jedoch in der Rangliste erwähnt.

15. Juni 1918 Urkunde, RK des Kgl. Hausorden von Hohenzollern, Kreuz der Ritter mit Schwertern

26. Dezember 1934 Urkunde, Ehrenkreuz für Frontkämpfer an den Fabrikanten Max Meurer in Lahr

Mitgemachte Gefechte:

August 1914 Kämpfe in den Vogesen

Sept. 14 – Jan. 15 Kämpfe an der Aisneu und vor Ypern

02.02.-12.03.15 Winterschlacht in Masuren

25.02.-06.03.15 Gefecht am Bobr

09.03.-12.03.15 Gefecht bei Seiny

15.03.-18.08.15 Njemenschlacht

09.09.-02.10.15 Schlacht bei Wilna

05.10.-16.10.15 Stellungskämpfe zwischen Krewo-Smorgon-Narodschsee

29.01.-16.02.16 Narocz

01.03.-19.06.17 Stellungskämpfe vor Dünaburg

16.08.-13.09.17 Stellungskämpfe an der Sckloa-Servitsch

30.09.-30.10.17 Stellungskämpfe am Stochod

24.12.17-28.02.18 Stellungskämpfe in Flandern

01.03.-20.03.18 Aufmarsch zur Großen Schlacht in Frankreich

21.03.-30.03.18 Große Schlacht in Frankreich

01.04.-08.04.18 u.

09.04.-30.04.18 Kämpfe in französischen Flandern

09.04.-18.04.18 Schlacht bei Armentières

20.05.-26.05.18 Stellungskämpfe nördlich der Aillette

27.05.18 Erstürmung der Höhen des Chemin des Dames

27.05.-08.06.18 Schlacht bei Soissons und Reims

Dienstverhältinisse:

A) Frühere:

01.10.02-30.09.03 Einjahr-Freiw. Feld-Art.-Regt. 66, 4. Battr.

24.03.-18.05.04 Übung A, Feld-Art.-Regt. 66, 4. Battr.

13.05.-07.07.05 Übung B, Feld-Art.-Regt. 66, 6. Battr.

B) Nach Eintritt der Mobilmachung:

03.08.14 Als Vize-Wachmeister d. Landw. bei Inf.-Munitions-Kolonne XV Armeekorps

18.10.14 A.K.O zum Lt. d.Res. FAR 66

21.02.15 Z. Adj. d.Res. Fuß-Art. Mun.-Kol. 39

21.06.15 Adj. Staffelstab 391 der 77. Res.-Division

29.01.17 Als 1. Adj. z. Staffelstab 149 87

26.02.17 Res. Fuß-Art. 60 überwiesen

01.03.17 Z. 2. Battr. FAR 60 versetzt J.D.

18.05.-28.06.17 Z. Feldart. Sch. Sch. Warschau

02.07.17 Z. Ers.-Abt. FAR Zossen versetzt

27.07.17 Z. 7. Battr. FAR 60 versetzt u. mit Führerstelle beliehen

27.11.18 Z. Ers.-Abt. FAR 66 versetzt, gem. Vfg.Stv.Gen. Kdos.XIV A.K. Abt. Ia v. 13.11.18 J.Nr.3300/18

09.12.18 Nach Lahr Bez. Kdo. Offenburg entlassen

Zusätze zu den Personalnotizen:

22.09.16-27.11.16 Feldlazarett 103 wegen kompl. Rechtseitigem Unterschenkelbruchs

08.06.18 6 Uhr 30 vormittag in Vassens durch Artilleriegeschoss am Kopf, Rücken und linken Unterschenkel schwer verwundet und dem Feldlazarett 56 überwiesen

01.07.18 Krankentransportabteilung 7

03.07.18 Reserve Lazarett Mainz, Reserve Lazarett II Görlitz

16.08.18 Reserve Lazarett Baden-Baden Abteilung IVa

Hi Andy!

Welcome to this club... The bar you show I have already seen it on German forum, but it's really nice to see it again. Btw it's a hell of a bar, a center piece in any medal bar collection. Congrats!

Ciao,

Claudio

Well, well,... I don't know if this bar should be discussed; it's quite a waste of time.

First of all the combination presents a couple of questions already:

- Why a Zentenarmedaille with a BMVO? Possible, but than this officer would have been a Prussian... but no medals from Prussia? Not even a long service medal (also as reservist)

- If this officer was Bavarian why there isn't the Luitpold jubilee medal (1905-08) or any other LS or commemortive medals?

- With the Hindeburg Cross (FEK) issued around 34-35, this bar should have put together after 35? Why is this guy wearing the Flanderncross (like Heiko said with the wrong ribbon), since all veteran and fantasy medals issued during the Weimar era is still in place?

- Construction: looks brand-new, but the medals show diffent shades of wearing conditions? Strange... also I don't like the colour of the threads and the material and pieces being used (needle, backing, color of the thread). It doesn't screem to me like being typically constructed before WWII

Finally I can say that I wouldn't touch it even with a 10 meters long pole... but this is just my guts' feeling! ;-)

Ciao,

Claudio

Hi Heiko!

I found his photo on the internet.

ciao,

Claudio

Original pieces have a very specific fixing of the iron swords.

That's exactly the reason why I purchased that medal bar. You can recognize also from the picture (see rost on the swords); these swords are magnetic.

Thank you for your determination of the maker.

ciao,

Claudio

7 place Bavarian medal bar with a MVK2kr x

back

another group with a MVK2x and BMVM in Silber...

back...

My group with a MVK3kr x...

Yep, I just posted it only in order to compare these extremely rare ribbon bar swords devices...

Here's a bigger scan of the already quite bad color picture of Kube's catalog... (not digital)

Hi Mike,

That is exactly the ribbon bar I meant... the group remained un-sold! No wonder by such a starting price (first time Eur 8000.-, 2nd time Eur 6800.-).

I can try to make a better scan from Kube's catalogue.

Ciao,

Claudio