Claudio

I was reading with interest this thread and also confirm to have seen it on Ebay... but I never hesitated not to bid on it! Not for a single second... I wouldn't even touch with a 10 meters long pole...

Such weird combinations I would only buy if there are documents which attests the correctness of the bar.

Just my 2 cents.

Ciao,

Claudio

Hallo Heiko!!!

Turkey... that's quite strange! World is really small.... But why the police they have to keep your found pieces for a couple of years??? As evidence for a future trial? They can just take some pictures, put in writing (report) and send them to you...

Anyway I keep the finger crossed for you!

Viel Gl?ck!

Ciao,

Claudio

@ Veteran: all Frackspangen (medal bars for civilian attire/tuxedo) were worn like that under the label of the jacket.

It's difficult to say... one of these three!

There're also other bars that I am very attached, like the first ones I bought over 20 years ago... Sometimes I am very sentimental!

Ciao,

Claudio

... and a more rarely seen Hannover'sche maker's label: Wilhelm Wellhausen.

another Reimann's label bar of a Weimar-Era produced medal bar....

A Grabow & Matthew Kiel's label...

Beautiful Paul!

Congratulations for your newly adquired piece!

Ciao,

Claudio

Same Dealer for "Milit?r Effecten" (interesting German old-style spelling) but different label: Adolf V?lker in Gotha.

Label Adolf V?lker in Gotha...

Stempel (stamps???) Reich...

Ciao,

Claudio

not mine, unfortunately!

Maker's labels on ribbon bars... here's Sedlatzek's label!

H. Acker in Stuttgart... a simple KVK 2. Kl. ohne Schwerter!

Fahnenfabrick Mehn in Braunschweig!!! (producer of flags in Braunschweig)... interesting!

Same Ordenslieferant's label but on reverse of a larger bar...

A 1870-71 NCO veteran's medal bar with the VK in Silber...

Medals' description:

? Preussen, Verdienstkreuz in Silber (OEK 1851)

? Preussen, DA 2. Kl. f. 12 Dienstjahre, Medaille, 2. Modell, 1913-20 (OEK 1976)

? Preussen, Alsen-Kreuz 1864 am Band f?r K?mpfer (OEK 1932)

? Preussen, Landwehr-DA 2. Kl. f. 9 Dienstjahre, Medaille, 2. Modell 1913-20 (OEK 1979)

? Preussen, Erinnerungskreuz ?K?niggr?tz?, 1866-67 (OEK 1938 )

? Preussen, Kriegsdenkm?nze f?r K?mpfer 1864 (OEK 1936)

? Preussen, Kriegsdenkm?nze 1864 f?r K?mpfer mit 4 Spangen Gravelotte-St.Privat, Beaumont, Sedan, Paris (OEK 1941/1, 1941/7, 1941/8, 1941/10, 1941/24)

? Preussen, Zentenar-Medaille, 1897 (OEK 1965/1)

Here's my brother's Verdienstkreuz in Gold am Einzelbandspange...

Ciao,

Claudio

Otto Banse, Berlin... Einzelbandspange with Zentenar-Medaille...

Ciao,

Claudio

Here's a quite pristine bar with the "J. Reimann" label...

Hi Paul,

Here's the medal for those who don't know how it looks like...

Ciao,

Claudio

A Sedlatzek's medal... sorry I don't have larger pictures of it...

I have got also a Ulrich's bar to show...

@ Komtur: I like your civilian Tuxedo medal bar very much! Congrats...

Like Rick's spange I had in my pawns - for a short time since I sent it back to the Dealer (Niemann) because I wasn't satisfied with the DA 1. Kl. which looked very doubtful - a Gante's made bar, the same "cheapo" kinda paper label with no stitching...

Ciao,

Claudio

Wow, Andreas! That quite an unique bar... I have never seen a Verdienstkreuz WITH crown in flesh before!

Ciao,

Claudio