Claudio

I proportion to the general population... guite a lot of bald guys!

Hi Chris! I am also wearing a toup? in that picture no, I am joking!

Ciao,

Claudio

Today I got up with the hope that you guys (Rick & Daniel) would find something interesting for my brother... and you did come up with two names! That's incredible... the Waldeck spange was a bit difficult to find on a dealer's table... so small, but so great!!! I was surprised to see the two W?rttemberg ribbon bars still laying on a table, since I arrived the next day... I am sorry Paul! Next time you will be more lucky . But you also did find some nice stuff.

Usually my brother is very skeptical about any ribbon or medal bar, but with that 2 W?rttemberg bars we had no second thoughts. The only thing I didn't like about Wollaib's ribbon bar is the absence of any backing fabrich on the reverse, but this is quite normal for W?rttemberg's bars; the Svabians (Schwaben) are known to save money where they can... like we Swiss!

ciao,

Claudio

...and ribbon bar number 3 must be a Godet (see the needle system and the backing). Very likely in this case the luftwaffe officer decide to wear the EK2 (1914) at the bottom hole, maybe with the 1939 clasp.

Ciao,

Claudio

Here a picture of the obverse.

Ciao,

Claudio

Dear forumites,

Here are some of my brother Marco's new purchases. At last he could find the quite uncommon wreath device of W?rttemberg. I think that the last ribbon bar from the top could be researchable, since the wearer of the bar a career officer was with many interesting decorations from different states (W?rttemberg, Hessen, Prussia and Austro-Hungarian Empire).

Any inputs or comments are very appreciated.

Ciao,

Claudio

Here is the reverse; as you can see this bar was pratically never worn.

Ciao,

Claudio

Dear forumites and Spangen-collectors,

Here I have something that it's not anything special but quite interesting. The bar is in very good conditions.

Ciao,

Claudio

Hi Paul,

I am going with my brother Marco. See you there!

Ciao,

Claudio

Hi Sam,

Interesting to see that DN has sold this medal bar. In fact, I can remember quite distinctly that this bar was on a table at the Gunzenhausen of another vendor last year. He wanted Eur 450.- much more that DN has sold this bar. I was very interested in this bar, but at that time for me the price was too high and the vendor wouldn't have gone down with the price. Now I see it on DN website for Eur 375.-. That means that that dealer in Gunzenhausen has passed this bar to DN for much less.

Sometimes I wonder why some dealers they want to make such a huge profit, risking not to sell their items and finally they exchange such items among them for much less! I can't really understand it...

Ciao,

Claudio

@ David:

Here's the back: it's not a typical navy blue or black backing but this belonged 100% to the above-mentioned German Imperial navy. It came with an album of invites, postcards and my brother and I have a whole lot of pictures about the ship and its trips in the far east (see thread: http://gmic.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=2297...mp;#entry19284).

Ciao,

Claudio

Dear forumites,

Here's my brother Marco's medal bar with a L?beck Hansa cross...

Bezeichnung:

9-teilige Ordenschnalle des S.M.S. Schiffes ?Seeadler? Marine-Generalarztes a.D. Dr. Theodor Hansen

Medaillen:

? Preussen, Eisernes Kreuz 1914, 2.Klasse (OEK 1909)

? Preussen, Roter Adler Orden, 4. Klasse (OEK 1704)

? L?beck, Hanseatenkreuz, 1915-18 (OEK 1265)

? Hessen-Darmstadt, Milit?r-Sanit?ts-Kreuz, 1914 (OEK 937)

? Deutsches Reich 1933-45, Ehrenkreuz f?r Frontk?mpfer mit Schwertern (OEK 3803/1)

? Preussen, Rotes Kreuz, 3. Klasse, Medaille, 1898-1921 (OEK 1872)

? Preussen, DA-Kreuz f?r 25 Dienstjahre der Offiziere, 3. Model, 1. Typ (OEK 1970)

? Deutsches Reich 1871-1918, China Denkm?nze f?r K?mpfer (OEK 3150)

? Preussen, Centenar-Medaille, 1897 (OEK 1965)

Enjoy!

Ciao,

Claudio

@ Komtur: here's a picture with Oberst von Stockhausen wearing the Offizierskreuz mit Schwertern.

Ciao,

Claudio

Here is the back. Can anyone show a pic of a person wearing this cross?

Greatings, Komtur.

I am gelous since I have his medal bar:

I am surprised... if the awards of the MVK1 am Bande f. Kriegsverdienst (Beamtenband) are 1'600 that means that the MVK1 am Kriegsband are at least 5-6 times more. In this case the MVK1s are much less rare than expected. But still on the market you see 90% of the available MVK1s are "improved" ones (MVK3s gilted and with the center enameled) and the real MVK1s (Verleihungsst?cke, with multiple parts center gold medallion cypher "L") are still very hard to find indeed! How could you explain this?

Ciao,

Claudio

Hi Rick,

I'd like to order one of each, too! (shipment to Switzerland)

Ciao,

Claudio

Hi Bernd,

Can I ask you, where did you get these numbers for the MVKs am Bande f?r Kriegverdienst? I don't think that your numbers for the MVK1 am Bande f. Kriegsverdienst can be correct...

Ciao,

Claudio

And how many BVMK3 am Beamtenband were awarded??

Here's my bar with a BVMK3...

Thank you, Werner, for your interesting information about the stastics of the MVK2 am Beamtenband. Do you know how many MVK1 am Beamtenband were awarded? They must be definetely less than 500...

Here I have some interesting statistics... maybe any of you, dear researchers, could complete or correct this list.

Milit?rverdienstkreuz, 1. Klasse mit Krone und Schwertern: ca. 175

Milit?rverdienstkreuz, 1. Klasse mit Schwertern: ca. 700

Milit?rverdienstkreuz, 2. Klasse mit Krone und Schwertern: ca. 3?800

Milit?rverdienstkreuz, 2. Klasse mit Schwertern: ca. 15?000

Milit?rverdienstkreuz, 2. Klasse am Beamtenband 1?883

Milit?rverdienstkreuz, 3. Klasse mit Krone und Schwertern: ca. 73?000

Milit?rverdienstkreuz, 3. Klasse mit Schwertern: ca. 290?000

Ciao,

Claudio

Back:

Dear fellow collectors,

I'd like to show you my latest purchase: an interesting medal bar of a very likely senior LW fonctionary (Beamte), with a Hindenburg cross marked Godet & Sohn.

Here's the description of the medals:

? Preussen, Eisernes Kreuz 2. Klasse, 1914 (OEK 1909)

? Bayern, Milit?rverdienstkreuz 2. Kl. mit Krone und Schwertern am Beamtenband (OEK 428)

? Deutsches Reich 1933-45, Ehrenkreuz f?r Frontk?mpfer (OEK 3803), Hersteller G & S (Godet & Sohn)

? Deutsches Reich 1933-45, Dienstauszeichnung 1. Klasse f?r 25 Dienstjahre der LW (OEK 3857)

? Deutsches Reich 1933-45, Dienstauszeichnung 3. Klasse f?r 12 Dienstjahre der LW (OEK 3859)

? Deutsches Reich 1933-45, Medaille zur Erinnerung an den 13. M?rz 1938, Anschluss ?sterreichs (OEK 3516)

? Deutsches Reich 1933-45, Medaille zur Erinnerung an den 1. Oktober 1938, Anschluss Sudetenland mit Spange ?Prager Burg? (OEK 3817 + 3818)

One ribbon bar is with the correct MVK Beamtenband and the other with an uncorrect (maybe because out of stock) MVK war merit ribbon.

Your comments and opinions are most appreciate, especially regarding the MVK 2. Kl. mit Kr. u. Schwertern. Although the combination is quite rare, considering the MVK 2. Kl. mit Kr. u. Schwertern am Beamtenband, I don't think this bar could be researchable, if I won't find the picture of this medal bar's holder wearing it.

Ciao,

Claudio

The whole bar in all its glory.

Ciao,

Claudio

Here the markings...

S & W 937, but is quite unclear... I can't read everything...

I almost forgot Konteradmiral Feldmann's medal bar HHOX...

Here a detail of the HHOX is marked HHOX.

Ciao,

Claudio

Please delete this double posting.

Ciao,

Claudio

My one and only single HHOX, bronce gilted version without maker marks.

@ Daniel: do not hesitate to ask me if you need more pictures either for your publications or for your researchs.

Ciao,

Claudio