Claudio

Yes, but I leave like the original owner put it. Very likely he wanted to show the inscription or maybe the taylor/dealer who mounted the bar didn't have a clue.

Ciao,

Claudio

Today I feel good: I just restored one medal bar.... it looks much better now and this improvement costed me not more than USD 20.-

Detail head size on the back:

From the top:

Detail inside:

Inside:

Detail of the Eagle (Hoheitsabzeichen):

Front:

Front from the right:

Dear forumites,

I would like to show you for your opinion or comments a Pickelhaube I just received from Kube.

Since it is always very difficult to judge from the catalogue's picture, it's quite risky to bid on such items if you're not present at the auction.

What bothers me more about this Pickelhaube is:

- The color of the eagle and also of the spike is not a nice gilted color, but a "matt gelb" kind of dull color. All my helmets that I have in my collection have either a very brilliant gilting or a striking good silvering.

- On the base of the spike appears to be 3 different stars (out of 4!)

- In the interior, the black base were the prongs are fixed appear to have been messed quite a bit, since the traces left.

- The round metal devices fixing the cocards seem to be newer or showing a more brillant color than the rest of the chinscale.

I would like to hear your most appreciated comments on this pickelhaube and ask you if you agree with my observations and if you have more to add to them.

Thanks in advance!!!

Let's the show begins with the pictures... (more than 1000 words worth!)

Ciao,

Claudio

Scharzburg-Sonderhausen, 2. Kl. mit Eichenbruch... in Gold!

Hi Stogie,

I didn't receive them yet.

Here's the reverse of the ZVO.

Ciao,

Claudio

Here a detailed close up of the Prince's medal bar. From the picture and shade of grey, I can tell that, very likely, he was wearing a gold-yellow piped Waffenrock, for Cavalry. I think also that it was a double-piping grey-yellowgold, for reserve!

Ciao,

Claudio

Hi everybody!

I am sure many of yours will be interested to see what Daniel found for picture of the above-mentioned prince. It's a great picture showing him wearing his Parade Waffenrock with full medals and orders. You can distinctly see the medal bar, the identical one as the one in my collection.

I really have to thank Daniel so much, for his patience and, why not, good luck, to find these fotos (like M?ckel). It's great fun and a huge satisfaction to bring the puzzle together. Now you can see how it looked like in real, when the price wore his Grossenordenschnalle!

Thanks Daniel! I owe you one! This foto will never come apart from his medal and ribbon bar again... I swear it!

Ciao,

Claudio

Hi Antti,

Who did this case for you? A Finnish guy?

Ciao,

Claudio

Sachsen, ZVO 1. Modell, obverse:

reverse:

Lippe, Hausorden, obverse:

reverse:

Bayerischer MVO 3. Kl. in Gold, obverse:

Reverse:

Braunschweig, Orden vom Heinrich des L?wen, Ritterkreuz 1. Klasse in Gold, obverse:

Herr Zeige also very generously provided me with the exact weight of the above mentioned orders. I compared them with Nimmergut's info taken from his 4 books "Deutsche Orden & Ehrenzeichen".

This is the result.

I am glad to hear your opinion... As you can see, some data vary very much some other data is quite identical (-/+ 1 or 2 grams).

I am quite desperate to get some information or comments on these, because, like Tim said, there is no detailled reference book where these orders are studied in all aspects (style, manufacture, weights, materials, different juwellers, ect.). I am very eager to learn more about them.

Ciao,

Claudio

Yes, Tim, Zeige sent me some additional very big photos... Too bad that the pictures always come out with too much flash or over-exposed. Better would be to scan such medals.

No comments on the other medals??

Here a WMVO for your opinion...

Ciao,

Claudio

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