armybrat43

Great collection!! very nice. and my wife thought I had a lot of stuff!!

the 1939 splange you see in the close up of the police bayonet is a reprodution. I try to collect only original items but sometimes people give me reproductions. Here is one more pic of my Krim shield the back is kinda rusty but I think it is still a nice piece.

And here is a close up of the police dress bayonet and scabbard. My wife gave me this beauty for a christmas gift. I have more militaria including som russian WW2 items. If anyone is interested I will post more items in my collection.

Here is some of my WW2 german medals and such

here is a close of shultz's belt and ammo pouches. He is also wearing a bayonet but I did not get a pic of it.

a full shot of shultz, as I stated before the tunic is a repro, the gear is all original

The kriegs flag is also a vet pick up

some field gear

Here are some of my WW2 german militaria items I have collected over the years. All original items except the tunic shultz is wearing and the 1939 iron cross splange The luger. P-38. and K98K are vet bring backs. The holster for the luger is on loan so it is not pictured.

I have learned a good deal concerning german armbands. And from what I have learned so far is that they are faked very easy. Where would a good online site be to purchase a party armband at? I'am really not wanting to collect armbands but would like a good original one for my collection and militaria display.

Thank you for the information concerning the stamp. so a unit would place the order for the armbands. Then after recieveing them would sometimes stamp them with thier unit stamp. So if a certain unit, be it SS, luftwaffe, medical, etc.. would have a personal stamp assigned to them with unit designation. Would these stamps somtimes also include the unit location? And would armbands issued earlier, such as pre WW2 bands be more likely to be stamped then later war year bands? Or did it mainly depend on who was issuing the armbands? I never realized how complex these armabnds were.

Thanks for the information on the armband and no apologies needed, I have a question concerning the stamp placement. Were there certian regulation requirement for the placing of stanps on armbands? Or was this more or less left up to the manufactuerer of the armband as to the placing of the stamp? Thanks

Kevin and Deva No problem, just wanted to make myself clear on my intentions. And what I meant by "clearly shows it as a SS armband" in the beginning of my post, were the two black stripes on the top and bottom of the band. Also, the stamp being a forgery, on what other items has this stamp been found? That way I can keep a eye out for it and others who read this thread might also, thanks

That's great! I have several of his books, great information and even better seeing how he visits the forum.. As far as the armband goes, I really didn't pay much for it, came with some other items I traded for. And I do not collect SS militaria due to my Opa. He was in the war and was a german soldier and he did not approve of the SS due to what they stood for. Frankly if he were alive and knew I had this armband I don't think he would approve. He was one of the reasons I started into collecting WW2 militaria. I mainly posted it to get others input on the item. I learn a great deal by doing this. And I hope it helps others also to learn. I noticed that there are a lot of people viewing these topics, so maybe they can get helpful info from them. And add thier opinions about it also. As far as the armband goes, I will not keep it in my collection. Kev In Deva Thank you for your input but to reply to your comments above. I stated which book I had found some info on this armband. I don't see were I made any direct quote just a quick overview from what I had read. I'm not here to trick anyone. Also I don't see where I stated that this armband looked anything like the one pictured in the book Also I don't recall typing anything about the book having anything about the stamp on the armband. Also I never stated that this was a "orignal late war SS armband". I wasn't sure what organization it belonged to. This is one reason why I posted it here on this forum to learn about the armband and hear others opinions on the subject If you read my first post, I asked for other opinions. Also I do not claim to be a expert on these types of things. Also, seeing how there are many collectors out there. I assumed that many would have this book as well as many other books to refer to and get the "direct quote" if they cared to. And here is a picture of the stamp up close. I turned the armband inside out and darkened the picture some to get a clearer outline. Also kind of off topic but I posted a WW2 EKI I wasn't sure of and had picked up in a trade. I didn't know a lot about the cross so I posted it here. The first opinion on the cross was that it was fake so I assumed it was Then the last opinion was that it was a original in rough shape. At any rate, I learned a great deal about iron crosses from that posting.

I have to make a correction on the armband. Most of my information I have obtained from other websites. I picked up a book yesterday called "Detecting The Fakes" by Robert Lumsden. The book clearly shows this armband as a SS armband. The book states on page 125 that armbands sizes colors and lettering differed considerably. Some were hand made some machined made on cotton, wool or linen. And that silk screen printing on cotton or linen were widely used. The book also states on page 126 that fakes were commonly made of thick felt were commonly backed or unbacked with thick modern red paper fibre. The swastikas are typical machine embroidered as one piece with a wide border of synthetic thread. And that printed fakes are also circulated on canvas rahter then the correct wool,cotton, or linen. The armband I have pictured is clearly made of linen, does not have synthetic thread, And has the correct stamp. But seeing how there were so many variations of armbands, I guess even authors of books could be wrong sometimes. And from what I have found so far in my opinion this website is the best WW2 militaria forum out there on the web .

I did some research on the armband. It is not SS but a political armband. These armbands were later made of linen and were printed onto the linen. The stamp is legit, I darken the picture in order for the stamp to show more clearly. And I did a burn test on a piece of the thread and it passed as far as not being made of a polyester.

Takn you for the feedback about the badge.

thanks for the info and no need to be sorry, didn't pay anything for the badge. And I really don't care much for it. (i collect Army items). And i don't display it with my other militaria. I figured I would post a few pics and get some feedback on it.

close up of emblem

pic of the back

This a a badge that was issued only for a linited time before being replaced. According to Robin Lumsden's book "Medals and Decorations of Hitler's Germany" This was a qualification badge for ski instructors and was one of the largest youth awards. And that there was only one maufacturer of this award "Wittman of Munich" Mr. Lumsden claims that this badge was more then likely withdrawn shortly after it's introduction seeing as there have been no known photographs of it being worn. And that is was more then likely replaced by the " HJ Scbiwart cuff title" which was authorized for wear by those supervising Hitler youth sking courses. The badge pictured has some damage to several of the Edelwiess flowers tips. And the center rivet is lslightly loose that holds the emblem and flower in place. I feel that this award is original, and was wondering what others might think of it. My wife likes the badge I think it is kind of on the ugly side.

I agree, the EK1 was sent back this morning. I have leraned a great deal about EKs since posting this thread. Thanks to everyone who posted, this is a great site for collecting information.

You are very correct, she is one of a kind. And to be honest with you, she is the one who wants to send the items back if they are not correct due to the seller selling them as originals. (She also collects but not militaria) RS Prussian porcelin and antiques. She does not like to be taken advantage of, she will only buy from dealers who will stand behind thier items. Also I would never give her a gift such as a kitchen gadget or a sewing machine. Every year she gives me as gifts a few pieces of militaria.

Yes you are correct, but I figured I would use this as a learning tool for myself and others before it goes back tomorrow.

here is the front at a angle