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That will be good fun for display purposes, funny if the orginal turned up. If you can't find any of the orders let me know perhaps I can help. Sincerely Brian

A not so simple reverse

Hi Mike Thanks for pointing that out, from the obverse it would seem to be a complicated procedure as in some of the German bars. The Danish style of mounting is absolutely fantastic, just adore those Danish style trifold ribbons. Sincerely Brian

Hi Mark When you say replicate, do you mean to make another bar from scratch for the uniform or just put the individual pieces on. Locating the orders that you need will not be the problem but to duplicate the orginal bar you will need an expert for that. Certainly a challenge Sincerely Brian

Hi Glenn Great information to know. Never knew that, certainly a good path to allow oneself to be recognized on merit and not just class. I was amazed to learn that Michael schuch did receive other orders & decorations shortly before his death. In November 1870 he recived his ( career details ) Bavarian MVO Knight 1st class. Would it be safe to assume that the award would have been with swords since it was issued during the war & he was directly involved in the fighting. Would the same also hold true for his Prussian Crown award to be with swords too? . Please excuse if the question seems naive, Bavarian MVO is already a military order, just don't know what further deeds are needed to be awarded with swords. Thanks Sincerely Brian

Steve with the Saint Stanislaus it would be a bit exotic & the order is fairly common to find. The Bavarian Military Merit Order knight 2nd class is more rare. Thanks for the foto always neat to see a beautiful example. Sincerely Yankee

Hi David Great job Curious about his entry into the army. He started off as a private and worked his way all the way up to commander of a regiment. As I recall in the English army that would be a very difficult feat to accomplish to go from enlisted man to officer at that period in time. Was it also as difficult in the German States to raise yourself from private to officer during the mid 19th century, If so he must have been a very accomplished fellow. Thanks Sincerely Brian

Hi Mark I just found out about that recently from a fellow collector in this club, just passing the info for others. I think yours is a pre WWl but not totally sure might ask another collector, knows considerably more then I on the subject. Maybe a colonial era example. Sincerely Brian

Foto taken 1902

Mark absolutely fantastic, with silver blades what a contrast. I just remembered Henry the Lions did that too with their swords.

The Waldeck has a rod instead of a ribbon ring that you would normally see on a German made piece. It works makes the bar even. Perhaps a private purchase designed for this bar. The Queen's mother was a Princess from Waldeck so I imagine many Dutch were awarded this order perhps on other Dutch bars this type was issued. I think it is Dutch made, perhaps another member can tell for certain. On the reverse the arms are enamel.

Must have posted before your last post so much info that it just jumped ahead of me did not mean to skip

Has anybody noticed something odd about the Waldeck-Pyrmont 3rd class Cross of Merit

First one on the bar right before the Wendish Crown

Thanks for all that info Jacky, now I understand the 5th clas is the knight. A 4th class is the officer and explains why I never see one in solid gold. Appreciate it. Woow the Dutch had many orders and with the Luxemburg connection a bit complicated and Nassau too I may say

The House order of Orange he received in 1908 the bar dates before then, but not before 1902 I know for certain. Was the House order of Orange officer class a breast badge or a pinback? Thanks

Certainly his name ( long one )Jonkheer Cornelis Lubertus van Suchtelan van de Haare. He was an Aide-de-Camp to William lll ( couple of months ), Aide-de-Camp to Queen Wilhelmina & later Aide- de-Camp to Duke Hendrik of Mecklenburg which explains all his knights badges he had received. Sincerely Yankee

Hi Ed Hope I didn't do something silly and cause a problem

Hi Mark My apologies, didn't catch the rosette, certainly yours is a 3rd class. Mine is of silver except the center being of gold. Certainly your gold crown also indicates that too. I think some of the early 3rd class ones were made entirely of gold & later ones in silver gilt. Can anybody tell me when the order of Orange-Nassau was abolished. The Jonkheer received his knight in 1898.

Hi Jacky The bronze medal is the 1898 Inauguration of Queen Wilhelmina. The obverse does look like the wedding medal of 1901 however the reverse are totally different in design. Sincerrely Yankee

Hi Mark He has a 25 years long service medal, I suspect he could have a exchanged for a longer service at his own expense. Interesting to note both Generals received the same class of Orange -Nassau w/ swords. Sincerely Yankee

Hi Mike Do you know if the reverse is enamel or paint over the silver gilt? Would a person who received the Elephant could he or she also hold a knight of Dannebrog at the same time? Only say this for the Elephant sash is an identical match to the color of the reverse. In any event nice design Thanks Sincerely Brian

Dear Gentlemen The firm Ryesgados Mantgalleri has a knight FR VII of Dannebrog with a light blue reverse. Can anybody explain what this means? My only conclusion was the recipient was also a holder of the Elephant which has a light blue sash. To such an important person one would think the badge would be done in gold as they usually were not in silver gilt as this example is done. Sincerely Yankee