GreyC

Just now, JohanH said:

So he was a Feldwebel in the Luftwaffe and stationed at first a flight school and then a sea rescue team who rescued downed pilots?

Yes

1 minute ago, JohanH said:

I wonder why he got the Finnish medal, perhaps he rescued the pilot of a downed Finnish aircraft?

 

Well possible.

GreyC

Hi,

the BuArch list has a probable typo and other mistakes in it.

He was with the flight school company at the Flugzeugführerschule Pütnitz likely from 1939-42. Due to his long stay there he might have been part of the teaching staff, but that´s just a guess.

From 1942-1945 (typo!) he was with 4th Seenotgruppe according to the BuArch. I think the original card below is to be believed which states he was with 4./II. Senootgruppe which was stationed in Wilhelmshaven first and was moved to the island of Norderney in 1944 and then moved to List/Sylt in March 1945. In April 1945 (if I can decipher it correctly) according to the card he was transferred to Seenotstaffel 80. Which basically is the same unit as before as it only changed its name.

When is unclear to me. The card says he transferred 4/45, but the name change seems to have taken place in 8/44.

The term 4./II. Seenotgruppe means 4th Staffel in the II. Seenotgruppe. The guy at the BuArch probably confused "Staffel" and "Gruppe" and got it wrong (indicative for that is that he wrote 4. Seenotgruppe, not IV. Seenotgruppe, as it should have been written. Staffeln were written with arabic numerals: 4. Seenotstaffel). Another good reason to believe the BuArch got it wrong is that there simply was no IV. Seenotgruppe ;-). Another mistake is in the name of the school in connection with the date given.

The school was only called FFS C 17 from 1. Januar 1941 on till Oct 1941, however the name appears in the BuArch list already as of 1940. So all in all sloppy work by the BuArch! 

He seems to have been a "ladies man", as the card indicates he was treated for a VD at Wilhelmshaven and Bremen.

That got me thinking. If, as the BuArch cclaims, he was with the FFS C17 in Pütnitz at least until 1942, why was he at a hospital in Wilhelmshaven for a treatment that could have been administered at hospitals much closer to Pütnitz than WHV. For example somewere in Mecklenburg or Vorpommern or even in Kiel. Now remember the 4th Seenotstaffel he was assigned to after Pütnitz was stationed in Wilhelmshaven until approx. 1944. So if he had already been with this Staffel, the hospital in Wilhelmshaven would make much more sense to me. And given the unreliability of the BuArch it could well be the case. Just a thought...

He handed in his last will August 1941.

The Fieldpost number given on the card (L 13783) is indeed that of the 4th Seenotstaffel.

For further reading:

Karl Born: Rettung zwischen den Fronten. E.S. Mittler & Sohn, Hamburg/Berlin/Bonn

GreyC

Hi,

he was last listed in Harburg in 1907. The 1908 addressbook of Harburg/E. only lists his daughter and his widow.

GreyC

Hi,

thanks to the knowledgable Glenn we now have the date of promotion to Oberst and need no longer speculate in this respect: Oberst on 24 July 1915.

However Glenn wrote me that his HOHX3 seems not to have been listed in the Militär-Wochenblatt but he will dig deeper.

GreyC

9 hours ago, webr55 said:

Which means, he must have got his HOH3X as Oberst.

Hi,

interesting stuff, but what is your source that he got his HOH3X as Oberst and not as Oberstleutnant? I am probably missing sth. but in the obituary there is no mention when he was promoted to Oberst or when he was awarded the HOH3X.

Best,

GreyC

On 05/05/2024 at 14:56, ccj said:

Those appear to be Imperial German M15 pattern tabs.

I don´t think so.

The only green tabs for Generals I have seen are from WW2 and were worn by police-generals. German General tabs of WW1were generally red.

But if you know better, let me know and I´ll learn sth. new.

GreyC

Hi tony,

you are very welcome! Thank you for the kind words and the clicks. Unfortunately I can´t visit this forum as often as I used to.

By the way: it seems to be Sanitätskompanie 31 and the officers in front might be named Leutnant Zeiger and Oberleutnant Köstlin, but I am not 100% sure.

Best,

GreyC

11 hours ago, Deutschritter said:

joining the Fliegertruppe.

as "Beobachter".

GreyC

The photo caption with the waggon, posted Posted August 19, 2018 (edited)

reads baggage waggon of the Sanitäts-Kompanie (medic-coy.)

GreyC

I can´t read it all but it says in short, that with an order of 29th Oct. of 1813 he was (if I understand it correctly) kicked out of the officers corps because of his behaviour in the face of the enemy. maybe during the Völkerschlacht in Leipzig?

GreyC

The WIKIPEDIA article on him features the same photo.

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luitpold_von_Bayern

GreyC

Hi,

could have something to do with Congregation Salesian or Salesians of Don Bosco. It´s their motto.

GreyC

Hi,

I agree.The way the ribbon is folded  might indicate Austria or Saxonia.

GreyC

Thank you!

Was away for a while.

GreyC

Abs = Absender

GreyC

The sign at the back might give a clou as to where the photo was taken. Could have been Flensburg.

GreyC

Thanks!🙂

GreyC

Here in wear:

Vorläufiger Ausweis

Der musketier August Potthast von der 3. mg Kompanie des 3.Ober-Elsässisches Infanterie-Regiment Nr. 172, geboren am 16. Juni 1894 zu Lemgo, Kreis Lemgo, Lippe Detmold, ist am 22. September 1916 das EKII verliehen worden. Ein Besitzzeugnis wird später zugestellt werden.

GreyC

19 hours ago, bolewts58 said:

 

Do you have a link for Generalmajor Karl Becker? I was looking, but couldn't find any.

I am afraid, I don´t. He was reactivated for service in the war, having held comand of 59 Inf Brigade before the war and finishing the war as  Kdr of Stellvertetendes Brigade Kdo 49. He died 1st Jan. 1924.

GreyC

17 minutes ago, bolewts58 said:

I think his name was Richter

Not quite, I am afraid. His name is/was (Karl) Becker

GreyC

The Regiment was raised by Stellvertretendes  Generalkommando of X. AK, replacements came from Ers. Btl. LwIR 78. So chances are he came from lower Saxony, around Brunswig or Celle. But with a name like his, its like a needle in a haystack.

GreyC

Hi,

interesting.

For Heeres-Sturmgeschütz-Brigade 600:

https://www.lexikon-der-wehrmacht.de/Gliederungen/Sturmgeschutzeinheiten/Sturmgeschutzabteilung600.htm

GreyC

Premier Lieutnant Carl Muskewitz, Kommandeur des Pferde-Depots der 8. Armee-Korps

Signed by the Comander of the 8th Army-Corps. It´s the award certificate for participants of the war of 1866.

GreyC

It is always better to show both sides.

1) Stationsleiter Oberleutnant Schiller vor seiner Felsenwohnung Xanthi 1917.

2) ??? Flugboot als Gleitboot und Rettungsboot in Putzig.

GreyC