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Thank you. Compared to the one in the museum the tavern copy is a rather crude one, especially w regard to the execution of the face. GreyC

Posted what right now?

As the original seems to be here: Rijksdienst voor het Cultureel Erfgoed De Collectie The one in the tavern is a copy? GreyC

Hi, see: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Konstantin_von_Quadt_und_Hüchtenbruck_(General) GreyC

The same publisher, different author: Kraus: Die feldgraue Uniformierung des deutschen Heeres 1907 - 1918. Band 1 + 2 Also information regarding generals. There is also the book by Ortenburg/Prömper: Preussisch-deutsche Uniformen von 1640-1918 which has some information on generals, too. Best, GreyC

I don´t think so. Here a book that covers the topic for 1871 to 1914: https://www.militaria.at/Book.aspx?book=1596672&Language=de GreyC

It is. https://www.zvab.com/Lichtdruck-Porträt-eigenhändiger-Unterschrift-Köhl-Hermann-1930/22488268369/bd#&gid=1&pid=1 GreyC

His first name was Gerd. He later was Staffelführer Jasta 52 from 10th Aug - Nov. 1918. GreyC

Yes Well possible. GreyC

Hi, the BuArch list has a probable typo and other mistakes in it. He was with the flight school company at the Flugzeugführerschule Pütnitz likely from 1939-42. Due to his long stay there he might have been part of the teaching staff, but that´s just a guess. From 1942-1945 (typo!) he was with 4th Seenotgruppe according to the BuArch. I think the original card below is to be believed which states he was with 4./II. Senootgruppe which was stationed in Wilhelmshaven first and was moved to the island of Norderney in 1944 and then moved to List/Sylt in March 1945. In April 1945 (if I can decipher it correctly) according to the card he was transferred to Seenotstaffel 80. Which basically is the same unit as before as it only changed its name. When is unclear to me. The card says he transferred 4/45, but the name change seems to have taken place in 8/44. The term 4./II. Seenotgruppe means 4th Staffel in the II. Seenotgruppe. The guy at the BuArch probably confused "Staffel" and "Gruppe" and got it wrong (indicative for that is that he wrote 4. Seenotgruppe, not IV. Seenotgruppe, as it should have been written. Staffeln were written with arabic numerals: 4. Seenotstaffel). Another good reason to believe the BuArch got it wrong is that there simply was no IV. Seenotgruppe ;-). Another mistake is in the name of the school in connection with the date given. The school was only called FFS C 17 from 1. Januar 1941 on till Oct 1941, however the name appears in the BuArch list already as of 1940. So all in all sloppy work by the BuArch! He seems to have been a "ladies man", as the card indicates he was treated for a VD at Wilhelmshaven and Bremen. That got me thinking. If, as the BuArch cclaims, he was with the FFS C17 in Pütnitz at least until 1942, why was he at a hospital in Wilhelmshaven for a treatment that could have been administered at hospitals much closer to Pütnitz than WHV. For example somewere in Mecklenburg or Vorpommern or even in Kiel. Now remember the 4th Seenotstaffel he was assigned to after Pütnitz was stationed in Wilhelmshaven until approx. 1944. So if he had already been with this Staffel, the hospital in Wilhelmshaven would make much more sense to me. And given the unreliability of the BuArch it could well be the case. Just a thought... He handed in his last will August 1941. The Fieldpost number given on the card (L 13783) is indeed that of the 4th Seenotstaffel. For further reading: Karl Born: Rettung zwischen den Fronten. E.S. Mittler & Sohn, Hamburg/Berlin/Bonn GreyC

Hi, he was last listed in Harburg in 1907. The 1908 addressbook of Harburg/E. only lists his daughter and his widow. GreyC

Hi, thanks to the knowledgable Glenn we now have the date of promotion to Oberst and need no longer speculate in this respect: Oberst on 24 July 1915. However Glenn wrote me that his HOHX3 seems not to have been listed in the Militär-Wochenblatt but he will dig deeper. GreyC

Hi, interesting stuff, but what is your source that he got his HOH3X as Oberst and not as Oberstleutnant? I am probably missing sth. but in the obituary there is no mention when he was promoted to Oberst or when he was awarded the HOH3X. Best, GreyC

I don´t think so. The only green tabs for Generals I have seen are from WW2 and were worn by police-generals. German General tabs of WW1were generally red. But if you know better, let me know and I´ll learn sth. new. GreyC

Hi tony, you are very welcome! Thank you for the kind words and the clicks. Unfortunately I can´t visit this forum as often as I used to. By the way: it seems to be Sanitätskompanie 31 and the officers in front might be named Leutnant Zeiger and Oberleutnant Köstlin, but I am not 100% sure. Best, GreyC