Kriegsmarine Admiral

Unknown #22

Does anyone recognize this officer in Greece? I'm not sure if he's an admiral.

Unknown #21

Who is this admiral?

Thanks

Unknown #20

Who is this admiral?

23 hours ago, Glenn J said:

Hi Karlo,

 

I don't think he is Wilhelm von Haxthausen. That leaves Hubert von Rebeur-Paschwitz and Theoder Eschenburg. On balance, I would tend towards Admiral Eschenburg. Nikolaus Graf zu Dohna-Schlodien did perform duty as a Flügel-Adjutant during the Kaiser's exile but number 2 does not appear to be him. Freiherr von Paleske seems more likely.

 

Regards

Glenn

Thank you Glenn!

Here is another photo of Theodor Eschenburg. What is the award above the EK1? Could it be a Stahlhelm Bund award?

Kaiser Wilhelm II with his adjutants.
Is number 1 Theodor Eschenburg?
Who is number 2?
Thanks!

Unknown #19

Who is this Konteradmiral in Italy?

Thanks

3 hours ago, FRE_A_K said:

March 25, 1942 is the right answer. Matikkala also states this.
The Führer's Adjutant General Rudolf Schmundt was awarded on June 4, 1942.

 

On 01/02/2022 at 19:12, Kriegsmarine Admiral said:

Vizeadmiral z.V. Paul Wülfing von Ditten:

-Finnish Order of the Cross of Liberty 2nd Class with Swords

Awarded in 1918 I believe.

May 19, 1918 is the right answer.


I wish I had time to give all the right answers

- Vili

Thank you very much Vili!

I hope you will be able to help with the other dates also, if you find the time of course.

Unknown #18

Who is number 1 on this photo? I think he could be an Admiralarzt.

Number 2 is Gerhard Wagner.

Unknown #17

Please help me ID these officers.

1: ??? (possibly a Vizeadmiral)

2: ??? (possibly a Konteradmiral)

3: Friedrich Götting

4: is it Hubert Schmundt?

Unknown #16

Who is this Konteradmiral? The Vizeadmiral in the middle is Paul Fanger. The photo was taken on 31 May 1941.

Unknown #15

Who is this admiral with Dönitz? Photos taken on 15 April 1945 at the Oderfront.

10 hours ago, Deutschritter said:

Maybe you can help me, do you have a picture of Vizeadmiral Kurt von dem Borne? Thanks!

Here:

1 hour ago, Deutschritter said:

Good, so you got my picture at FB. I was very lucky to find it here (p. 2) ... Wasaorden, Ritterkreuz II. Klasse am 2. Juli 1890 (SW3b) on Board of the SMS „Friedrich der Große“ through the King of Sweden personally, who visited the ship at Helgoland ... he must have received the SA2bX after the Rangliste 1918 was published.

I didn't realise it was you that sent the photo on my Facebook page. Thank you very much once again!

Please help me with the awards of Hans Küsel. Recently I found another photo of him that revealed he had another award that wasn't listed in the 1918 Rangliste. Perhaps there are more awards than the ones I have on my list now.

His list of awards I have so far:

-Königlich Preußischer Kronen-Orden 2. Klasse mit Schwertern (13. 12. 1917)
-Eisernes Kreuz (1914) 1. Klasse 
-Eisernes Kreuz (1914) 2. Klasse
-Königlich Preußische Kaiser Wilhelm-Centenarmedaille 1897 
-China-Denkmünze in Bronze mit Spange „TAKU“
-Königlich Preußischer Roter Adler-Orden 3. Klasse mit der Schleife
-Königlich Preußischer Roter Adler-Orden 4. Klasse mit der Krone
-Königlich Preußischer Kronen-Orden 3. Klasse
-Königlich Preußischer Kronen-Orden 4. Klasse
-Königlich Preußisches Verdienstkreuz für Kriegshilfe
-Ritterkreuz des k.u.k. Österreichischen Franz-Joseph-Ordens
-Ritterkreuz 2. Klasse des Königlich Schwedischen Wasa-Ordens (02. 07. 1890)
-Hamburgisches Hanseatenkreuz
-Komturkreuz des Großherzoglich Sachsen-Weimar-Eisenachischen Hausordens der Wachsamkeit oder vom Weißen Falken mit Schwertern
-Komturkreuz 2. Klasse des Herzoglich Sachsen-Ernestinischen Hausordens mit Schwertern
-Komturkreuz 2. Klasse des Königlich Sächsischen Albrechts-Ordens mit Schwertern
-Großherzoglich Oldenburgisches Friedrich August-Kreuz 1. Klasse
-Großherzoglich Oldenburgisches Friedrich August-Kreuz 2. Klasse
-Kaiserlich Türkische Imtiaz-Medaille mit Säbeln
-Königlich Preußisches Dienstauszeichnungskreuz 
-Ehrenkreuz des Weltkrieges 1914/1918 mit Schwertern für Frontkämpfer

First, the ID of his ribbon bar from the first photo below:

- Eisernes Kreuz (1914) 2. Klasse

- Königlich Preußisches Verdienstkreuz für Kriegshilfe

- Königlich Preußischer Roter Adler-Orden 3. Klasse mit der Schleife

- Königlich Preußischer Roter Adler-Orden 4. Klasse mit der Krone

- Königlich Preußisches Dienstauszeichnungskreuz

- China-Denkmünze in Bronze (it seems he didn't mount the Spange)

- Königlich Preußische Kaiser Wilhelm-Centenarmedaille 1897 ???

- Großherzoglich Oldenburgisches Friedrich August-Kreuz 2. Klasse ???

- Hamburgisches Hanseatenkreuz

- Kaiserlich Türkische Imtiaz-Medaille mit Säbeln (Silber or Gold ???)

- Ritterkreuz des k.u.k. Österreichischen Franz-Joseph-Ordens ???

- Ritterkreuz 2. Klasse des Königlich Schwedischen Wasa-Ordens ???

And now the awards around his neck from the second photo below:

- Königlich Preußischer Kronen-Orden 2. Klasse mit Schwertern

- Komturkreuz des Großherzoglich Sachsen-Weimar-Eisenachischen Hausordens der Wachsamkeit oder vom Weißen Falken mit Schwertern

- Komturkreuz 2. Klasse des Herzoglich Sachsen-Ernestinischen Hausordens mit Schwertern

- Komturkreuz 2. Klasse des Königlich Sächsischen Albrechts-Ordens mit Schwertern

The Komturkreuz 2. Klasse des Königlich Sächsischen Albrechts-Ordens mit Schwertern is visible around his neck below the Sachsen-Ernestinischen Hausorden. This award is not listed for him in the 1918 Rangliste. See the entries from the 1914 and 1918 Rangliste below the photos.

Unknown #14

Who is this admiral?

19 minutes ago, Deutschritter said:

I take it, the Großkreuz has still not been identified? Romania? Bulgaria? Thanks! 

At some point during the time he was Placed at the Disposal of the Commander-in-Chief of the Kriegsmarine (24 June 1940-31 August 1942), he was attached to the German Mission in Romania. No further info avaliable. All I know is it was some time in early 1942. A Romanian book gives the date 28 February 1942 on which Götting was received by Marshal Ion Antonescu as the new "Chief of the German Naval Mission".

Some colleagues from the Axis History Forum and I agreed that the Breast Star is the Großkreuz des Königlichen Ordens der Krone von Rumänien mit Schwertern. That's the award I have in my files. Of course, this is not 100% confirmed because of the lack of a better photo of the Breast Star.

Here is the full list of his awards, if you are interested:

-Eisernes Kreuz (1914) I. Klasse 
-Eisernes Kreuz (1914) II. Klasse
-Königlich Preußisches Dienstauszeichnungskreuz
-Großherzoglich Oldenburgisches Friedrich August-Kreuz I. Klasse
-Großherzoglich Oldenburgisches Friedrich August-Kreuz II. Klasse mit Spange „Vor dem Feinde“
-Hamburgisches Hanseatenkreuz
-U-Bootskriegsabzeichen (1918)
-Ritterkreuz I. Klasse des Königlich Schwedischen Schwertordens (02. 08. 1918)
-Ehrenkreuz des Weltkrieges 1914/1918 mit Schwertern für Frontkämpfer    
-Wehrmacht Dienstauszeichnung IV. bis I. Klasse
-Großkreuz des Königlichen Ordens der Krone von Rumänien mit Schwertern

6 hours ago, Deutschritter said:

Was Friedrich Götting killed in Russian captivity? I would love to know more about his career.

He died in Russian captivity. No info if he was actually executed, more likely it was from natural causes.

See here for his biography: https://www.oocities.org/~orion47/WEHRMACHT/KRIEGSMARINE/Vizeadmirals/GOETTING_FRIEDRICH.html

4 hours ago, JohanH said:

I found Götting!

 

He got the Knight 1st class on August 2nd 1918.

Great job! Thank you.

20 minutes ago, JohanH said:

Here is the entry in the award roll. 

 

Kurt Fricke and Karl Dönitz on 12th April 1930.

Thanks. So my sources were wrong.

20 minutes ago, JohanH said:

Sorry, I don't have any lists of the "normal" Order of the White Rose. The only lists I have are of those who received the order with swords.

That's ok, you helped me a lot nevertheless.

20 minutes ago, JohanH said:

Can you show the photo?

Sure, here is the photo. You can see the Order of the Sword on his medal bar (4th medal). Can you determine the class from the photo? Knight's Cross 1st or 2nd Class?

On 30/01/2022 at 14:28, JohanH said:

Großadmiral Karl Dönitz:
-Knight's Cross 1st Class of the Royal Swedish Order of the Sword (12 April 1930)

 

Admiral Kurt Fricke:
-Knight's Cross 1st Class of the Royal Swedish Order of the Sword (12 April 1930)

So, Dönitz and Fricke got the Knight's Cross 1st Class on the same date? It's odd that my sources give somewhat different dates (12 April 1936 for Dönitz and 12 July 1930 for Fricke).

Do you have the award dates for the Order of the White Rose of Finland and the Swedish Order of the Sword of these other admirals below?

Generaladmiral Rolf Carls:
-Grand Cross of the Order of the White Rose of Finland (1938)

Admiral Max Bastian:

-Finnish Order of the Cross of Liberty 2nd Class with Swords

Awarded in 1918 I believe.

Vizeadmiral Friedrich Götting:
-Knight's Cross 1st Class of the Royal Swedish Order of the Sword

It's possible that he had the 2nd Class. The only source I have is photographic.

Vizeadmiral z.V. Paul Wülfing von Ditten:

-Finnish Order of the Cross of Liberty 2nd Class with Swords

Awarded in 1918 I believe.

Konteradmiral Hermann Baron von Salza:
-Commander's Cross of the Order of the White Rose of Finland (1922)
-Commander's Cross 1st Class of the Order of the White Rose of Finland (1931)

Konteradmiral z.V. Walter Isendahl:
-Finnish Order of the Cross of Liberty 1st Class with Swords (1918)

Konteradmiral Werner Steffan:

-Commander's Cross of the Order of the White Rose of Finland

Great! Thank you.

14 minutes ago, JohanH said:

Char. Vizeadmiral Hans Kolbe:
-Knight's Cross 2nd Class of the Royal Swedish Order of Vasa (3 August 1905)

For Kolbe I actually have the award document that says 5 August 1905, not 3 August. See below.

1 hour ago, JohanH said:

Admiral Hubert Schmundt:
-Finnish Order of the Cross of Liberty 1st Class with Swords  (4 June 1942)

The date in Matikkalas book is June 4th 1942.

And what should we do with Schmundt? Since your date (4 June 1942) comes from a secondary source (book "Kunnian ruletti" by Antti Matikkala) and the one I have (25 March 1942) should be from the primary sources (if we are to believe the person who posted it on AHF), I think my date should be the correct one?

One question regarding the classes of the Order of the White Rose of Finland.

Isn't the correct name for the Commander classes the Commander's Cross 1st Class and the Commander's Cross? And not Commander's Cross 1st Class and the Commander's Cross 2nd Class. Of course, the difference between the two classes was that the Commander 1st Class had a Breast Star.

11 minutes ago, JohanH said:

I found Ernst Lucht.

 

He seem to have received the commander 2nd class of the White rose  on 11 August 1942.

Great! Thanks! Did he recieve it with Swords or without Swords?

By the way, the correct date for Conrad Albrecht's Commander's Cross 1st Class of the Order of the White Rose of Finland is 19 October 1936, not 19 June 1936. The auction site got it wrong. See the award document below.

26 minutes ago, JohanH said:

The dates I give of the Swedish orders are from the original award-scrolls. 

Of course, I will trust your dates instead of the ones from the book. Primary sources are always more reliable.

5 minutes ago, JohanH said:

What I meant was if it would be possible to make some note that Great Dane have checked these and I have checked these. So one wouldn't have to scroll through all the replies to find if there are any named that are not checked yet

I see. Sure, I will add your award dates to my first post. No problem.

15 minutes ago, JohanH said:

Admiral Hubert Schmundt:
-Finnish Order of the Cross of Liberty 1st Class with Swords  (4 June 1942)

The date in Matikkalas book is June 4th 1942.

The date 25 March 1942 can be found on the Axis History Forum posted by the member USAF1986. He said: "I received copies of the original Finnish documents detailing the German recipients of the Finnish Order of the Cross of Liberty in all classes as well as the associated medals. These documents cover the period of 1941-1944. Here is the list of all German recipients of the 1st Class and higher that received their orders during this time frame. The award dates are those given in the Finnish documents. Presumably, this was the original date approved by the Finnish authorities and was probably not the date the recipient might actually have been awarded it."

Here is the link: https://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=20711&p=340533&hilit=hubert+schmundt#p340533

The same date is also in the book "Die Ritterkreuzträger der Überwasserstreitkräfte der Kriegsmarine" by Manfred Dörr, although he has is "with Swords and Oak Leaves". The "Oak Leaves" part is wrong. So, I guess Schmundt was awarded this order on 25 March 1942, and your date (4 June 1942) could be the date he actually received the medal.

20 minutes ago, JohanH said:

Konteradmiral Ernst Lucht:
-Commander's Cross 1st Class of the Order of the White Rose of Finland with Swords (11 August 1942)

How certain are you that Lucht received the order with swords? He is not in the very short list of recipients.

For Lucht, the source is again the book "Die Ritterkreuzträger der Überwasserstreitkräfte der Kriegsmarine". I don't know if this is correct?