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The photo was actually not taken in 1936. It was taken at the end of May 1937, when the German Panzerschiff „Deutschland“ brought the wounded and dead sailors to Gibraltar.
I think one of the two Rear Admirals present is Alfred Englefield Evans, who was the Rear Admiral-in-Charge and Admiral-Superintendent at HM Dockyard Gibraltar from May 1937 until May 1939. Does anyone have a photo of Evans for comparison?
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Launching of the Panzerschiff „Admiral Graf Spee“ at the Naval Shipyard in Wilhelmshaven, 30 June 1934.
1: Vizeadmiral Emil Heusinger von Waldegg, Chief of the General Naval Office, Naval Command (15 November 1930-26 September 1935)
2: Kapitän zur See Willy von Nordeck, Chief of the Central-Department of the Naval-Shipyard Wilhelmshaven (05 October 1932-29 September 1935)
3: Huberta von Spee, the daughter of Vizeadmiral Maximilian von Spee, the ship's namesake. She christened the ship.
4: Vizeadmiral Richard Foerster, Fleet-Chief, Fleet-Command (22 September 1933-20 December 1936)
5: Kapitän zur See Werner Grassmann, Chief of the Shipyard Department of the Naval Command (01 July 1933-30 September 1934)0 -
10 minutes ago, JapanX said:
Thank you!
Seeing how Rogge was awarded the 4th class of the Order of the Sacred Treasure, do you think Leopold Siemens was awarded the 3rd or 4th class of the Order of the Rising Sun?
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Hello,
In an article on German-Japanese relations (see the 1st photo below) I found the information that Leopold Siemens, the Commandant of the light cruiser "Karlsruhe", was awarded the Japanese Order of the Rising Sun sometime in March 1936, during the visit of the "Karlsruhe" to Japan.
Since the article does not specify the exact class he was awarded, I wondered if anyone here would be able to find it and help me? Also the exact award date?
I would also be interested in the exact class and award date of the Order of the Sacred Treasure that was awarded to Bernhard Rogge, the First Officer of the "Karlsruhe". Right now, based on the fact that he was wearing it on his medal bar post-war, I concluded he was awarded the 5th class (Knight 1st class). But perhaps this is incorrect. See the 2nd photo below.
Here is the photo of Bernhard Rogge's medal bar.
What is the class of the Order of the Sacred Treasure: 4th class (Officer's Cross) or 5th class (Knight 1st class)?
Thanks!
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Konteradmiral Hermann von Fischel, Commander of Armoured-Ships (25 November 1936-08 February 1938). At the same time he was also the Commander of the German Naval-Forces at Spain at four different occasions: 16 December 1936-19 March 1937; 14 May 1937-22 June 1937; 08 September 1937-07 October 1937 and 08 February 1938-13 March 1938. His flagship at this time was the „Deutschland“.
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9 hours ago, Farkas said:
Respectfully I would go with 24 August 1917.
Thank you for sharing your opinion. But I will trust Demir because he is an expert on Ottoman awards and anything else associated with them.
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Hello,
Can anyone help me identify the unknown ribbons and confirm the ID of the ribbons which have the "???" written after them from the ribbon bar of Ludwig von Schröder.
First row:
- Eisernes Kreuz (1914) II. Klasse
- Kriegsverdienstkreuz (1939) II. Klasse mit Schwertern
- Ritterkreuz des Königlich Preußischen Hausordens von Hohenzollern mit Schwertern
- Großherzoglich Oldenburgisches Friedrich August-Kreuz II. Klasse
- Hamburgisches Hanseatenkreuz
- Bremisches Hanseatenkreuz
- Ehrenkreuz für Frontkämpfer
- Königlich Preußischer Kronen-Orden IV. Klasse am Bande der Rettungsmedaille
- Königlich Preußische Rettungsmedaille am BandeSecond row:
- Wehrmacht Dienstauszeichnung I. Klasse
- Wehrmacht Dienstauszeichnung III. Klasse
- Luftschutz-Ehrenzeichen I. Stufe ???
- Medaille zur Erinnerung an den 13. März 1938 ???
- Ehrenzeichen des Deutschen Roten Kreuzes (class unknown) ???
- unknown ???
- Großherrlich Osmanische Kriegsmedaille (Eiserner Halbmond) ???
- unknown ???
- Kommandeurkreuz des Portugiesischen Militärordens San Bento d' Aviz (dark ribbon half visible on the far right)Here is the list of his known awards, if it helps:
-Ritterkreuz des Königlich Preußischen Hausordens von Hohenzollern mit Schwertern (15. 06. 1918)
-Eisernes Kreuz (1914) I. Klasse
-Eisernes Kreuz (1914) II. Klasse
-Königlich Preußische Rettungsmedaille am Bande (15. 10. 1907)
-Königlich Preußischer Kronen-Orden IV. Klasse am Bande der Rettungsmedaille (01. 03. 1913)
-Großherzoglich Oldenburgisches Friedrich August-Kreuz I. Klasse
-Großherzoglich Oldenburgisches Friedrich August-Kreuz II. Klasse mit Spange „Vor dem Feinde“
-Hamburgisches Hanseatenkreuz
-Bremisches Hanseatenkreuz
-Großherrlich Osmanische Kriegsmedaille (Eiserner Halbmond)
-Ehrenritter des Königlich Preußischen Johanniter-Ordens
-Ehren-und Erinnerungskreuz des Marinekorps Flandern
-Kommandeurkreuz des Portugiesischen Militärordens San Bento d' Aviz
-Ehrenkreuz des Weltkrieges 1914/1918 mit Schwertern für Frontkämpfer
-Wehrmacht Dienstauszeichnung IV. bis I. Klasse (02. 10. 1936)
-Luftschutz-Ehrenzeichen I. Stufe
-Kriegsverdienstkreuz (1939) I. Klasse mit Schwertern
-Kriegsverdienstkreuz (1939) II. Klasse mit Schwertern
Thanks!
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3 hours ago, FRE_A_K said:
Sorry, my mistake. Hahah. 25.3.1942 is correct. The numbers switched places in my mind. I guess I was too tired to answer.
- ViliDon't worry haha. It's good that you double-checked. Thank you very much once again!
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12 minutes ago, FRE_A_K said:
The new class was the 2nd class of the Cross of Liberty with swords and an oak leaf. So the previous cross was practically cancelled. The new cross is mentioned in list 49, page 2, under "changes". The date is still mentioned as 23 May 1942.
Thank you for the explanation.
But now I wonder what is the date (25 March 1942) that is written in the German document.
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40 minutes ago, FRE_A_K said:
Kapitän zur See Erich Schulte-Mönting was awarded the 2nd class 23.5.1942. The class was changed to the 2nd class of the Cross of Liberty with an oak leaf on 15.4.1942. Signed by Mannerheim.
- ViliThank you Vili.
But I am confused now, because the German document says the award date is 25 March 1942. That is incorrect then?
You said the class was changed on 15 April 1942, before it was awarded. Was it first supposed to be awarded just with the Swords?
So, is 23 May 1942 the correct award date?
Also, was it the 2nd Class with Oak Leaves and Swords, or just with Oak Leaves?
I hope you will be able to explain, because I want to get it right.
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2 hours ago, JohanH said:
Hello!
Mönting received the Swedish order on the same date as the document. October 22nd 1940.
The Finnish order I don't know. I don't have access to those dates or awards. Mattikkala's book only lists 1st class orders.
But you could contact the order chancellery and ask about the date.
Thank you!
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Johan, I found these two documents that mention a Finnish and Swedish order awarded to Kapitän zur See Erich Schulte Mönting.
Could you please check if these classes and award dates are correct:
- Finnish Order of the Cross of Liberty 2nd Class with Oak Leaves and Swords (25 March 1942)
- Commander's Cross 2nd Class of the Swedish Order of the Sword (22 October 1940)
It's possible that the Swedish award date for the Order of the Sword will be different. The date in the document below could be the German approval date.
Many thanks!
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16 hours ago, speedytop said:
Based on the "Naval War College Review, Autumn 2017 Volume 70, Number 4" with a picture of the award ceremony for Ruge as cover and an added text it was: February 21, 1961
That is for me the most trustful source.
Uwe
I agree, thank you Uwe.
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Does anyone know which award date is correct for Friedrich Ruge's Commander's Cross of the United States Legion of Merit: "21 February 1961" or "2 August 1961"?
Thanks
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Hello,
This photo was taken on board the German Panzerschiff "Deutschland" while it was docked in Gibraltar in 1936.
Could anyone help me identify the four British officers present?
1: unknown Rear Admiral
2: Konteradmiral Hermann von Fischel
3: Kapitän zur See Paul Fanger (Commandat of the "Deutschland")
4: unknown Admiral
5: unknown Rear Admiral
6: unknown Captain
Thanks!
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7 minutes ago, demir said:
Hi,
It is July 7, 1915
Thank you Demir.
That is the conversion from the Hijri calendar to the Gregorian calendar, correct?
But wasn't the Ottoman Empire using the Rumi calendar, which was realigned to the Gregorian calendar in February 1917?
Or were the award documents still issued using the Hijri calendar?
Because this date correspond to 24 August 1917 in the Rumi calendar, if the converter I used is correct.
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Hello,
Could someone please help me convert an Islamic calendar award date?
German Naval officer Adolf Pfeiffer was awarded the Ottoman Order of Osmaniye 3rd Class with Sabers on 24 Sha'ban 1333.
Which date was this in the Gregorian calendar?
Thanks!
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4 minutes ago, JohanH said:
The date according to Matikkala's book is 15 April and with swords.
Many thanks! The date in his Personalakte must be wrong then.
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Johan, could you please double check if Vizeadmiral Heinz Nordmann was awarded the Finnish Order of the Cross of Liberty 1st Class with Swords on 15 April 1944?
Because his Personalakte states he received it on 12 April 1944.
Thanks!
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Kapitän zur See Wilhelm Matthies, Commander of the 1st Naval-Flak-Regiment (04 January 1940-30 April 1942), wearing the field grey Naval Artillery uniform, photographed in 1940.
A U-boat veteran from WW1, he was promoted to Konteradmiral on 01 February 1943 and on 29 February 1944 he was awarded the German Cross in Gold.1
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German and British naval officers on board the Panzerschiff „Deutschland“ at Gibraltar, end of May 1937. This photo was taken some time after the „Deutschland incident“ which occured on 29 May 1937. While moored in port of Ibiza, the „Deutschland“ was attacked by Spanish Republican bombers (a pair of Soviet-built SB-2 bombers, secretly flown by Soviet Air Force pilots), which bombed the ship. Two bombs struck the ship; the first penetrated the upper deck near the bridge and exploded above the main armored deck while the second hit near the third starboard 15 cm gun, causing serious fires below decks. The attack killed 31 German sailors and wounded 74. The ship then proceeded to Gibraltar, where the British Military Hospital treated the wounded sailors and where the dead were buried with full military honors. However, ten days later the dead were exhumed and returned for burial in Germany.
Second from the left is Konteradmiral Hermann von Fischel, Commander of Armoured-Ships (25 November 1936-08 February 1938) and at the same time the Commander of the German Naval-Forces at Spain (14 May 1937-22 June 1937).
Third from the left is Kapitän zur See Paul Fanger, the Commandant of the „Deutschland“ (30 September 1935-02 September 1937).