Kriegsmarine Admiral

Please help me ID this Kaiserliche Marine admiral. The photo was taken during WW2 in France. He is wearing glasses and what appears to be either the Roter Adler Orden 2. Klasse or the Kronen Orden 2. Klasse around the neck.

1 hour ago, avsaribar said:

Just a correction on the photo ;

 

(1) marked Breast Star  is an Osmanie as mentioned . But (1) marked Osmanie Badge is Not an Osmanie Badge , it is an Medjidie Badge . Btw , can not guarantee without measuring but i think that set is a Grand Cross set of Osmanie  ..

 

(2) marked Breast Star is Medjidie , it is right but (2) marked badge is the Osmanie's badge , not Medjidie ...

 

So there was criss-cross mistake ...  

: )

 

Avsar

 

 

Thank you Avsar! Yes, now I see that I marked them wrongly.

So, you think the Osmaniye Set is 1st Class (Grand Cross) and the Medjidie Set is 2nd Class, correct?

I still think the Osmaniye Set is 2nd Class, because I have information that he was awarded this order on 6 April 1904, when he was still a Kapitan zur See. This rank is too low for him to be awarded the Grand Cross.

Yes, this helps a lot.

Thank you!

Hello, I have some questions about the Bulgarian Order of Military Merit from the period before WW2 and during WW2.

The classes of this order are the following:

- Grand Cross

- Grand Officer

- Commander

- Officer

- Knight

- Silver Cross

Here are my questions:

1. What were the parts of the design of this order? Was it the Swords and the Crown? Or just the Swords?

2. During wartime, what were the devices that could be added to the award? Was it only the War Decoration (laurel wreath)?

3. What were the devices that could be added to the award during peacetime? The Crown?

Thanks!

2 hours ago, Komtur said:

Very interesting! What is the source you found the last both decorations for Böse?

I don't have photographic or documentary evidence for the Ehren-und Erinnerungskreuz des Marinekorps Flandern, but Böse served as the Divisionsarzt der I. Marinedivision, Marinekorps Flandern (02.12.1917 - 06.02.1918). This made him eligible to recieve the Flandernkreuz, and I am pretty sure he received it.

Regarding the Ehrenkreuz für Frontkämpfer. What do you mean a source for this one? Firstly, it can be seen on Böse's? medal bar that you posted in the first post of this thread. Secondly, every veteran of WW1 was eligible for the Ehrenkreuz für Frontkämpfer. Since Böse saw frontline combat, he is no exeption.

1 hour ago, Deutschritter said:

After 13 years you have it ... congratulations! May I ask a question to Ernst Böse? I understand RA3 (St. Annen-Orden), but was does RR mean? And what about BHK? Bayern or Braunschweig? Thank you!

His full list of awards:

-Eisernes Kreuz (1914) I. Klasse 
-Eisernes Kreuz (1914) II. Klasse
-Königlich Preußischer Roter Adler-Orden IV. Klasse
-Königlich Preußische Kaiser Wilhelm-Centenarmedaille 1897
-China-Denkmünze in Bronze
-Kaiserlich Russische Rote Kreuz Medaille zur Erinnerung an den Russisch-Japanischen Krieg 1904–1905
-Kaiserlich Russischer St. Annenorden III. Klasse
-Kaiserlich Türkischer Medschidié-Orden III. Klasse
-Königlich Preußisches Dienstauszeichnungskreuz 
-Königlich Preußische Rote Kreuz-Medaille II. Klasse
-Königlich Preußische Rote Kreuz-Medaille III. Klasse
-k.u.k. Österreichisches Offiziersehrenzeichen für Verdienste um das Rote Kreuz mit der Kriegsdekoration
-Kaiserlich Türkischer Eiserner Halbmond
-Bremisches Hanseatenkreuz
-Ehren-und Erinnerungskreuz des Marinekorps Flandern
-Ehrenkreuz für Frontkämpfer

Some ID's from my older posts: Unknown #2 is Vizeadmiral Herbert Straehler; Unknown #3 is Konteradmiral z.V. Heinrich Kehrhahn; Unknown #5 is Char. Admiral Iwan Christian Hermann Oldekop.

Unknown #6

I need help with identifying this admiral. I think he is a Konteradmiral. I don't know where the photo was taken, it looks like some sort of barracks. Any help is much appreciated!

For Hugo Meurer I also have China-Denkmünze in Bronze based on the ribbon bar posted by Nicolas in the first post. The class (Bronze) is just a guess. Since Nicolas hasn't replied to my question how he was able to confirm this medal for Meurer, I don't know if he actually received it. If we are to believe the medal bar posted by Johan is really Meurer's, then he didn't receive the China-Denkmünze, only the Südwestafrika-Denkmünze. Therefore, I am going to delete the China-Denkmünze from his list.

Regarding Alexander Meurer, here is what I have:

-Königlich Preußischer Roter Adler-Orden II. Klasse mit Eichenlaub (18. 01. 1914)
-Königlich Preußischer Kronen-Orden II. Klasse (16. 01. 1910)
-Eisernes Kreuz (1914) I. Klasse
-Eisernes Kreuz (1914) II. Klasse
-Königlich Preußische Kaiser Wilhelm-Centenarmedaille 1897
-China-Denkmünze in Bronze
-Südwestafrika-Denkmünze in Stahl
-Kaiserlich Russische China-Denkmünze 1900-1901 in Bronze
-Königlich Preußischer Roter Adler-Orden III. Klasse mit der Schleife
-Königlich Preußischer Roter Adler-Orden IV. Klasse
-Königlich Preußisches Dienstauszeichnungskreuz
-Ritterkreuz I. Klasse des Königlich Württembergischen Friedrichs-Ordens
-Hamburgisches Hanseatenkreuz
-Großherzoglich Oldenburgisches Friedrich August-Kreuz II. Klasse
-Kommandeurkreuz II. Klasse des Königlich Dänischen Dannebrog-Ordens
-Offizierskreuz des Königlichen Ordens der Krone von Italien
-Ritterkreuz I. Klasse des Königlich Norwegischen Ordens des heiligen Olaf
-Kaiserlich Russischer St. Stanislaus-Orden II. Klasse
-k.u.k. Österreichischer Orden der Eisernen Krone II. Klasse mit der Kriegsdekoration
-Kaiserlich Türkischer Eiserner Halbmond
-Ehrenkreuz für Frontkämpfer

And here are some photos of his medals I found. I pressume these are from the International Maritimes Museum in Hamburg. Just one little note, he most certainly didn't receive the Kriegsdenkmünze für die Feldzüge 1870–71. He was born in 1862!

9 hours ago, Deutschritter said:

This is what I have now for Meurer, additions and corrections welcome:

Add: -Finnische Silberne Tapferkeitsmedaille (1918)

What is your source for the Bayerischer Militärverdienstorden, III. Klasse mit Krone und Schwertern for Meurer?

5 hours ago, GdC26 said:

Hi Karlo, perfect, thank you very much!

Here is another Funke pic I won recently, signed and dated.

Great photo! The details on it are amazing.

Hello,

does anyone have a photo of Char. Marineobergeneralarzt Dr. med. Richard Spiering (1861-?)? There is no photo of him in the Volume III. of the "Deutschlands Admirale", page 351.

Thanks!

28. 01. 1920 Vizeadmiral mit RDA vom 12. 12. 1919

12. 05. 1920 änderung des Patents als Vizeadmiral auf RDA. vom 29. 10. 1919

13 minutes ago, dedehansen said:

Hi,

 

it is HH hamburgisches Hanseatenkreuz

 

Regards

 

Andreas

Thank you! It's odd that it's not mounted next to the BremH.

Please help me ID his medal bar:

- Eisernes Kreuz (1914) 2. Klasse

- Ritterkreuz des Königlich Preußischen Hausordens von Hohenzollern mit Schwertern

- Königlich Preußisches Dienstauszeichnungskreuz

- Königlich Preußische Kaiser Wilhelm-Centenarmedaille 1897

- Bremisches Hanseatenkreuz

- Königlich Bayerischer Militärverdienstorden 3. Klasse mit der Krone und Schwertern

- Großherzoglich Oldenburgisches Friedrich August-Kreuz 2. Klasse

- Großherzoglich Mecklenburg-Schwerinsches Militärverdienstkreuz 2. Klasse

- ???

The odd thing is, his entry in the 1918 Rangliste lists the Hamburg Hanseatenkreuz. But on his medal bar we can see he had the Bremen Hanseatenkreuz (5th medal). Could the last (unknown) medal be the Hamburg Hanseatenkreuz? If yes, why isn't it mounted next to the Bremen Hanseatenkreuz? If not, what is the last cross on his medal bar then?

Here is the full list of his awards I have:

-Königlich Preußischer Roter Adler-Orden II. Klasse mit Eichenlaub und Schwertern (04. 12. 1917)
-Königlich Preußischer Kronen-Orden II. Klasse (18. 01. 1914)
-Ritterkreuz des Königlich Preußischen Hausordens von Hohenzollern mit Schwertern
-Eisernes Kreuz (1914) I. Klasse
-Eisernes Kreuz (1914) II. Klasse
-Königlich Preußische Kaiser Wilhelm-Centenarmedaille 1897
-Königlich Preußischer Roter Adler-Orden III. Klasse mit der Schleife
-Königlich Preußischer Roter Adler-Orden IV. Klasse
-Königlich Preußischer Kronen-Orden III. Klasse
-Königlich Preußisches Dienstauszeichnungskreuz
-Königlich Bayerischer Militärverdienstorden III. Klasse mit der Krone und Schwertern
-Bremisches Hanseatenkreuz
-Großherzoglich Oldenburgisches Friedrich August-Kreuz I. Klasse
-Großherzoglich Oldenburgisches Friedrich August-Kreuz II. Klasse
-Großherzoglich Mecklenburg-Schwerinsches Militärverdienstkreuz II. Klasse
-Komturkreuz II. Klasse des Königlich Sächsischen Albrechts-Ordens mit Schwertern
-Offizierskreuz des Königlichen Ordens des Sterns von Rumänien mit Schwertern
-Kaiserlich Türkischer Osmanje-Orden III. Klasse
-Kaiserlich Türkischer Medschidié-Orden III. Klasse
-Ehrenkreuz für Frontkämpfer

Thanks!

On 05/11/2020 at 09:44, GdC26 said:

Unrelated, but I was going through my pics in an effort to help out another member an thought these might be of interest to you, Kriegsmarine Admiral.

Unfortunately, no names unless otherwise indicated.

Kind regards,

 Sandro

Hello Sandro,

I was finally able to identify all the admirals on your photos. Here are the ID's, in the order you posted them:

Char. Admiral Max Rollmann

Char. Admiral Max Rollmann (the zoom-in of the photo above)

Vizeadmiral Wilhelm Schack

Admiral Ludwig von Schröder

Admiral Friedrich Graf von Baudissin

Admiral Ludwig von Schröder

Char. Konteradmiral Otto Herbig

Admiral Friedrich von Ingenohl

Vizeadmiral Leo Jacobson

Großadmiral Hans von Koester

Admiral August von Thomsen

Char. Vizeadmiral Felix Funke

Char. Vizeadmiral Felix Funke (close-up of the medals)

Großadmiral Hans von Koester

Admiral Georg Alexander von Müller

Admiral Hugo von Pohl

Admiral Guido von Usedom

Großadmiral Alfred von Tirpitz

Admiral Ludwig von Schröder and Admiral Paul Behncke

Großadmiral Alfred von Tirpitz

Char. Vizeadmiral Felix Funke

Char. Admiral Ludwig von Reuter

Admiral Reinhard Scheer

Char. Admiral Victor Valois

Char. Vizeadmiral Hugo von Schuckmann

Admiral Ehrhard Schmidt

Admiral Reinhard Scheer

Yes, I think you are right about the Nischan Iftikar-Orden, and that he got the Großoffizierkreuz. I found it listed as "TNJft1" and I pressumed this meant the Großkreuz.

Thanks for the sources regarding the HSEH3a. My source didn't list it (it listed SA3a instead), and I guess then the "Ritterkreuz I. Klasse des Königlich Sächsischen Albrechts-Ordens" should be replaced with HSEH3a? Do you agree?

Regarding the Kolonial-Denkmünze mit Spange „Deutsch-Ostafrika 1888/89“. You are correct that he was dead when this medal was being awarded. But I think it was awarded to him posthumously.

Does anyone know if Marinegeneralstabsarzt Dr. med. Paul Schmidt was awarded the EK I and EK II?

He was in active service until 24 May 1916.

Thanks!

Hello,

does anyone have a photo of Char. Marineobergeneralarzt Dr. med. Claudius Richelot (1863-1929)? There is no photo of him in the Volume III. of the "Deutschlands Admirale", page 113.

Thanks!

On 13/02/2021 at 19:08, Deutschritter said:

Herzoglich Sachsen-Ernestinischer Hausorden, Ritterkreuz I. Klasse (HSEH3a/HSH3a)

Your source for this award? Also, for the Albrechts-Orden I have "mit Schwertern" (as visible on the first photo).

My list:

-Königlich Preußischer Roter Adler-Orden II. Klasse mit Eichenlaub, Schwertern und Stern (10. 09. 1890)
-Königlich Preußischer Kronen-Orden II. Klasse mit Schwertern und Stern (01. 11. 1889)
-Königlich Preußische Kriegsdenkmünze 1864 für Kämpfer
-Königlich Preußische Kriegsdenkmünze für die Feldzüge 1870–71 für Kämpfer
-Kolonial-Denkmünze mit Spange „Deutsch-Ostafrika 1888/89“
-Kaiserlich Türkische Goldene Medaille zur Erinnerung an den Besuch Kaiser Wilhelms II. 1889 in Konstantinopel
-Königlich Preußischer Roter Adler-Orden III. Klasse mit der Schleife
-Königlich Preußischer Roter Adler-Orden IV. Klasse
-Königlich Preußisches Dienstauszeichnungskreuz
-Kaiserlich Türkischer Medschidié-Orden I. Klasse
-Orden des Strahlenden Sterns von Zanzibar II. Klasse, I. Stufe
-Komturkreuz I. Klasse des Königlich Sächsischen Albrechts-Ordens mit Schwertern
-Ritterkreuz I. Klasse des Königlich Sächsischen Albrechts-Ordens
-Königlich Großbritannischer Bath-Orden II. Klasse (Militärklasse)
-Großkreuz des Königlich Schwedischen Schwertordens
-k.u.k. Österreichischer Orden der Eisernen Krone I. Klasse
-Großkreuz des Königlichen Ordens der Krone von Italien
-Großkreuz des Tunesischen Nischan-el-Iftikhar-Ordens
 

And a couple of photos:

Hello,

does anyone have a photo of Char. Marineobergeneralarzt Dr. med. Robert Martin (1864-1929)? There is no photo of him in the Volume II. of the "Deutschlands Admirale", page 437.

Thanks!

On 31/03/2020 at 15:15, Paul C said:

Below is the ribbon bar to Admiral Doctor med. Josef Freymadl. This is the first ribbon bar I ID its owner all by myself. Even Rick L. was not able to do the ID. Although I have sold almost all of my collection I held on to this piece.

Is the 2nd ribbon from the right the Bayerisches König Ludwig-Kreuz?

And was he awarded the Ehrenkreuz des Weltkrieges (2nd ribbon) with Swords or without Swords? Since he got the regular EK2 (and not the one on the white ribbon for non-combatants) he must have received the Ehrenkreuz des Weltkrieges mit Schwertern. But on your ribbon bar there is no Swords device? How is that?

Nice ribbon bar by the way!

43 minutes ago, BlackcowboyBS said:

Interesting, why did a german navy officer got a japanese decoration for the war against Russia in 1904 / 05? Does anybody has any clue?

Between 1902 and 1906, he was the German Naval Attaché in Tokyo.

Thank you guys!

What is the last medal on his medal bar? The clasp above it also seems to be a part of the medal. The second to last medal should be the Ritterkreuz des Königlichen Ordens der Württembergischen Krone (WK3).

Between 1902 and 1906, Trummler was the Naval Attaché in Tokyo. Could this last medal be a Japanese medal of some sorts? Or is it a Jubilee/Coronation medal from some other country? For example Great Britain. Trummler was Commander of the British Royal Victorian Order (GV3).

Thanks!

2 hours ago, 1812 Overture said:

This is the Italian Crown Order (Grand Officer level)

But I have a question. If EK2 was issued in 1914, then Germany and Italy are belligerents, can they still wear enemy orders?

Italy entered the war on 23 May 1915. Tapke could have been awarded the EK2 before that date, and he would still be allowed to wear the Italian Crown Order until 23 May 1915.