Kriegsmarine Admiral

Thank you.

Is the class of the Romanian Order of the Crown (number 12 on the photo): Grand Cross or Grand Officer?

16 hours ago, 922F said:

Agree with your IDs,  IDs follow, those without ? relatively positive IDs others, best guess:

 

#5  Austro-Hungarian [A-H] Leopold Order apparently with war decoration of lower class

#7  A-H  Merit Cross  Verdienstkreuz?

#8  A-H Signum Laudis [Military Medal of Merit--class?]?

#9  The (General) War Service Medal 1873

#10  A-H  Balkan Mobilisation Cross 1912-1913

#13  4 point star Bulgarian Natioinal Order Military Division Grand Officer w/o war decoration aka Military Merit Order post 1936 3rd class  

So #13 is the Grand Officer's Cross of the Bulgarian Order of Military Merit?

Thank you guys for your quick responses! 

I will post more soon.

8 hours ago, Farkas said:

I’ve just read he was awarded this:

 

I dont know if this this is on display in your picture?

 

It seems he was a Man with principles who paid the price for them...

tony

Yes tony. According to my sources he was awarded the Grand Cross of the Order of the Crown of King Zvonimir with Star and Swords. He is not wearing it on the photo though.

I want to start this thread where I will post different photos of Croatian WW2 Generals that served in the Austro-Hungarian army during WW1.

I need help with identifying their awards. Sometimes there will be other decorations (not just Austro-Hungarian) and I hope you can help me ID those also.

First up is General Vladimir Laxa. Holder of the Knight's Cross of the Military Order of Maria Theresa.

1 Gallipoli Star (Ottoman War Medal)

2 Knight's Cross of the Military Order of Maria Theresa

3 Military Merit Cross 2nd Class with War Decoration and Swords ???

4 Order of the Iron Crown 2nd Class with War Decoration ???

5 ???

6 Military Merit Cross 3rd Class with War Decoration ???

7 ???

8 ???

9 ???

10 ???

11 Croatian Military Order of the Iron Trefoil 2nd Class

12 Grand Cross of the Romanian Order of the Crown ???

13 ???

Please tell me if you agree with my "???" and also write the class of the awards if you know them.

You can also write the names of the awards in German.

Thanks!

A post-war photo featuring a couple of admirals. Can anyone help me ID them?
1 Konteradmiral ?
2 Vizeadmiral Karl Wedding
3 Admiral Reinhard Scheer ?
4 Konteradmiral ?
5 Konteradmiral ?
6 I am not sure if he is an admiral. But I think his sleeve insignia indicates he is also a Konteradmiral? Am I correct?

Thanks

5 hours ago, Odulf said:

Splendid!

I am trying to identify the Konteradmiral between numbers 10 and 11.

Do these 2 photos below show the same man?
On the right is Charakter als Konteradmiral Johannes Horn.

On 15/10/2018 at 10:42, Odulf said:

Looks like him very much, thanks!

 

I think I found out who the Konteradmiral is (number 2)!

Ernst-Oldwig von Natzmer (on the left, photo below). Compare the photos below.

1 hour ago, Odulf said:

Looks like him very much, thanks!

 

No problem.

I will work on number 2 (the Konteradmiral) and let you know if I identify him.

I think number 12 is Vizeadmiral Hugo Meurer. Does anyone agree?

Compare the 3 photos below.

Thanks

On 10/10/2018 at 08:00, 1812 Overture said:

Don't you have his color photos?

Unfortunately, no.

Hello,
Can you please help me identify the awards from the ribbon bars of Konteradmiral Hasso von Bredow.

His list of awards I have:

-Iron Cross (1914) 1st Class
-Iron Cross (1914) 2nd Class
-Prussian Order of the Red Eagle 4th Class
-Spanish Order of Naval Merit 1st Class
-Knight's Cross 1st Class of the Saxon Albrecht Order with Swords
-Prussian Long Service Cross 1st Class (25 years)
-Knight of Honor (Ehrenritter) of the Johanniter Order
-The Honour Cross of the World War 1914/1918 with Swords
-Wehrmacht Long Service Awards 4th to 1st Class

I have 2 photos of his ribbon bar. The first one is pre-WW2 (possibly from 1927) and the second one is taken during WW2.

Ribbon bar from the first photo:

- Iron Cross (1914) 2nd Class
- Prussian Order of the Red Eagle 4th Class ???
- Prussian Long Service Cross 1st Class (25 years) ???
- Knight's Cross 1st Class of the Saxon Albrecht Order with Swords
- Silesian Eagle 2nd Class ???
- Spanish Order of Naval Merit 1st Class ??? (source 1914 Rangliste)
- ???

Ribbon bar from the second photo:

- Iron Cross (1914) 2nd Class
- Knight's Cross 1st Class of the Saxon Albrecht Order with Swords
- The Honour Cross of the World War 1914/1918 with Swords
- The photo is of bad quality but in the book it looks like the Silesian Eagle 2nd Class (von Bredow was part of the Naval Brigade Loewenfeld) ???
- Prussian Order of the Red Eagle 4th Class ???
- Wehrmacht Long Service Award 1st Class
- Wehrmacht Long Service Award 3rd Class
- Prussian Long Service Cross 1st Class (25 years) ??? (also a blue ribbon I think)
- ???
- Spanish Order of Naval Merit 1st Class ???

Thanks!

1 hour ago, Komtur said:

It seems, that these terms were only used for the later 3rd model. But the in 1914 awarded decoration (therefore a 2nd model 3rd class) on the Kinzel bar was identic to the later Knight class.

Thank you.

1 hour ago, Komtur said:

2nd model 3rd class (1911-1924)

Is the 3rd Class Grossoffizier, Komtur or Offizier?

What is the class of the Chilean Order of Merit of Vizeadmiral Kinzel?

I think it is different than Fricke's.

Thanks

Thank you Dave!

Now, all of Wedding' awards have been identified.

Here is more info about the sixth medal:

http://antique-photos.com/en/awardsdatabase/weimarawards/209-commemorative-medal-of-the-union-of-german-naval-veterans-associations.html

1 minute ago, Dave Danner said:

Yes, it is the oval Kyffhäuser medal instead of the cross.  I'm not sure about the sixth. It might be another one of those unofficial Weimar-era awards. 

On a russian forum someone said this is the sixth medal (photo below).

I don't know how it is called though.

14 hours ago, Dave Danner said:

RAO2EXXRs2 is the Roter-Adlerorden 2. Klasse mit Eichenlaube und Schwertern und Schwertern am Ringe am zweimal schwarz- und dreimal weiß-gestreiften Bande.

"Kreuz der Genossen" is that class in German. In English, it is Companion of the Most Distinguished Order of Saint Michael and Saint George. The Order comes in three classes.

DtEDM, Flandern and Kyffh are three unofficial Weimar-era decorations for veterans: 

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deutsche_Ehrendenkmünze_des_Weltkriegs_(Deutsche_Ehrenlegion)
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flandernkreuz
http://www.medal-medaille.com/sold/product_info.php?products_id=3687

Since Wedding was still alive in 1934/35, they would have been replaced by the official Ehrenkreuz für Frontkämpfer.  

UKDM is the Hungarian WW1 commemorative medal. I abbreviate this UKEM, because it is an Erinnerungsmedaille and not a Denkmünze, but I have not yet won over my fellow research gnomes on this point. 

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ungarische_Weltkriegs-Erinnerungsmedaille

The rest of your "???" are correct.

Thank you very much Dave!

I have a photo of Wedding and another one of his medal and ribbon bars when he got the Ehrenkreuz für Frontkämpfer.

On the first photo he is wearing 4 unofficial awards.

I think the third medal is the Deutsche Ehrendenkmünze des Weltkriegs and the fourth the Flandernkreuz. The Kaiser Wilhelm Centenarmedaille is also visible.

Do you have any idea on what the fifth (oval) and the sixth (round) medals are? Both with "Schwertern" devices.

I think the fifth (oval) medal could be the Kyffhäuser-Kriegsdenkmünze?

http://www.medal-medaille.com/sold/product_info.php?products_id=13019

Also, I can't see the Kyffhäuser-Verdienst-Kreuz you linked above? He doesn't seem to be wearing it?

Thanks

Anyone? Please.

This is what I managed to work out so far.

RAO2EXXRs2: ???
RAO4X: Roter Adler Orden IV. Klasse mit Schwertern
KO2: Kronen-Orden II. Klasse ???
DA: Dienstauszeichnungskreuz I. Klasse
China Tientsin: China-Denkmünze in Bronze mit Spange "Tientsin"
BH: Bremisches Hanseatenkreuz
HH: Hamburgisches Hanseatenkreuz
LüH: Lübeckisches Hanseatenkreuz
OK1: Grossherzoglich Oldenburgisches Friedrich August-Kreuz I. Klasse
OK2a: Grossherzoglich Oldenburgisches Friedrich August-Kreuz II. Klasse mit Spange “Vor dem Feinde” ???
GM3: From 1914 Rangliste: "St. Michael und Georgs-Orden, Kreuz der Genossen" What does the Kreuz der Genossen mean? What class is that in german?
SMK1: Spanischen Orden für Verdienste zur See, I. Klasse
DtEDM: ???
Flandern: ???
Kyffh: ???
UKDM: ???

Hello,

Can someone please tell me the full names of these awards written in abbreviations for Karl Wedding?

RAO2EXXRs2, RAO4X, KO2, DA, China Tientsin, BH, HH, LüH, OK1, OK2a, GM3, SMK1, DtEDM, Flandern, Kyffh, UKDM

Some of them are unofficial awards.

Many thanks!

Hello, can someone read the writing on this photo?

I think it also includes the signature of the man on the photo. 

That would certainly help to identify him.

Thanks

Here is an interesting image from a 1917 issue of the German magazine Lustige Blätter.

Can you please help me confirm numbers 3 and 4?

1 Maximilian von Spee
2 Henning von Holtzendorff
3 Hugo von Pohl ???
4 Eduard von Capelle ???
5 Franz Hipper
6 Prinz Heinrich von Preußen
7 Alfred von Tirpitz
8 Reinhard Scheer

Thanks!

Here is the source of the image: https://roadstothegreatwar-ww1.blogspot.com/2013/06/notable-figures-of-kriegsmarine.html

They identified number 4 as Adolf von Trotha, but it is not him.

Update on number 8!

It is Vizeadmiral Walter Engelhardt and NOT Wilhelm Souchon!

Numbers 2 (Konteradmiral) and 12 (Vizeadmiral) still unknown...

1 hour ago, Glenn J said:

Korvettenkapitän Bastian's 1924 award of the SW2b is shown in the 1925 Swedish State Calendar .

Regards

Glenn

 

Thank you very much!

Do you perhaps know which awards do these abbreviations for Karl Wedding represent?

RAO2EXXRs2, RAO4X, KO2, DA, China Tientsin, BH, HH, LüH, OK1, OK2a, GM3, SMK1, DtEDM, Flandern, Kyffh, UKDM

On 08/02/2013 at 22:03, Daniel Krause said:

Hello Wayne,

I try so. Now 75 in the list...

Sorry for all the abbreviations :-)

 

Greetings

Daniel

 

 

Bastian, Max KL Amazone, AStO Finnl, 38 Adm KVKRKX, HOH3X, BH, HH, LüH, MMV2, WHDA1, FinnFK2X, ÖM3K, SW2b 24

Wedding, Carl KzS, VA 2.MarD RAO2EXXRs2, RAO4X, KO2, DA, China Tientsin, BH, HH, LüH, OK1, OK2a, GM3, SMK1, DtEDM, Flandern, Kyffh, UKDM

Hello, can you tell me what is your source for Bastian's SW2b? It is not listed in the Ranglisten I own (1914, 1916, 1918 or any other Reichsmarine Ranglisten).

Also, can someone please write the full names of Wedding's awards?

Many thanks!

This is a thread I started a while ago on the Axis history forum, but had no luck there.

My goal is to identify the Admirals on these photos.
This is the ceremony of Erich Raeder being promoted to Großadmiral on board the Scharnhorst in Wilhelmshaven on 1 April 1939. The date is important to narrow down the search. Also the "Tirpitz" was launched the same day.
I hope you can help. Open the photos in a new tab to zoom them in a bit. They are possibly placed in seniority order. Feel free to correct any mistakes and comment below if you have any ideas.

1 Admiral Conrad Albrecht (promoted the same day to Generaladmiral)
2 ???
3 Hafenbaudirektor Karl Tiburtius
4 ???
5 ???
6 Vizeadmiral Friedrich Götting
7 ??? (face barely visible)
8 ???
9 Possibly Marineoberbaudirektor Prof.Dipl.Ing. Hermann Burkhardt ??? (he is ID'd on a different photo from the same date, the launching of the Tirpitz)
10 Vizeadmiral Hans-Herbert Stobwasser ??? (I don't think he is Stobwasser)
a ??? (again he is too short so the face isn't visible)
b Vizeadmiral Günther Guse
c ???
d Vizeadmiral Hermann von Fischel
e ???
f Vizeadmiral (Ing.) Hans Fechter
g Vizeadmiral Hermann Densch
h ???
i Vizeadmiral Wilhelm Marschall
j Charakter als Vizeadmiral Ernst Wolf
k Charakter als Vizeadmiral Kurt Aßmann
Admiral between k and l ??? (barely visible)
l Konteradmiral Heinrich Ancker ??? (I am not sure about this one either)
m Konteradmiral Witold Rother
n Konteradmiral Raul Mewis
o Konteradmiral Otto von Schrader ??? (pretty sure it isn't von Schrader)
p Konteradmiral Werner Grassmann
q Konteradmiral Günther Lütjens
r Konteradmiral Otto Schniewind
s Konteradmiral Conrad Patzig
t Konteradmiral Otto Hormel ??? (again, not sure about this one)
u Vizeadmiral Willy von Nordeck (he can be seen in detail on the last photo of this post)

To help ID the rest of the Admirals I compiled a list of all the Admirals that held either the Konteradmiral, Vizeadmiral, Admiral or Generaladmiral rank (or Charakter of those ranks) as of 01 April 1939 (i.e. the date these photos were taken) and were active at that time in the Kriegsmarine. I also wrote in the brackets the ones already identified on the photo:

Alfred Saalwächter, Admiral
Conrad Albrecht (ID number "1"), Admiral
Hermann Boehm, Admiral
Karl Witzell, Admiral
Otto Schniewind (ID "r"), Konteradmiral
Otto Schultze (he was placed at the disposal of the Kriegsmarine, not in active service), Admiral
Rolf Carls, Admiral
Walter Warzecha, Konteradmiral
Wilhelm Marschall (ID "i"), Vizeadmiral
Conrad Patzig (ID "s"), Konteradmiral
Erich Zieger, Konteradmiral (Ing.)
Eugen Lindau, Vizeadmiral
Günther Guse (ID "b"), Vizeadmiral
Günther Lütjens (ID "q"), Konteradmiral
Hans Fechter (ID "f"), Vizeadmiral (Ing.)
Hermann Densch (ID "g"), Vizeadmiral
Hermann Mootz, Konteradmiral
Hermann von Fischel (ID "d"), Vizeadmiral
Hubert Schmundt, Konteradmiral
Karlgeorg Schuster, Vizeadmiral
Max Bastian, Admiral
Otto Hormel (ID "t", I am not sure about this one being Hormel, any ideas?), Konteradmiral
Otto von Schrader (ID "o", I am not sure about this one being von Schrader, any ideas?), Konteradmiral
Paul Fanger, Konteradmiral
Raul Mewis (ID "n"), Konteradmiral
Werner Fuchs, Konteradmiral
Wilhelm Canaris, Vizeadmiral
Willy von Nordeck (ID "u", Admiral right of "t"), Vizeadmiral
Adalbert Schüssler, Charakter als Konteradmiral
Ernst Wolf (ID "j"), Charakter als Vizeadmiral
Friedrich Götting (ID "6"), Vizeadmiral
Georg Reimer, Charakter als Konteradmiral
Hans Stohwasser, Charakter als Konteradmiral
Hans-Herbert Stobwasser (ID "10", I am not sure about this one being Stobwasser, any ideas?), Vizeadmiral
Heinrich Ancker (ID "l", I am not sure about this one being Ancker, any ideas?), Konteradmiral
Karl Thäter, Konteradmiral Ing.
Kurt Aßmann (ID "k"), Charakter als Vizeadmiral
Robert Witthoeft-Emden, Vizeadmiral
Siegfried Maßmann, Charakter als Vizeadmiral
Thilo von Seebach, Konteradmiral
Walter Matthiae, Charakter als Konteradmiral
Werner Bettenhäuser, Konteradmiral Ing.
Werner Grassmann (ID "p"), Konteradmiral
Witold Rother (ID "m"), Konteradmiral
Erich Mahrholz, Charakter als Konteradmiral
Hans-Hermann Graf von Schweinitz und Krain Freiherr von Kauder, Charakter als Konteradmiral
Hasso von Bredow, Charakter als Konteradmiral
Kurt Ramien, Konteradmiral
Peter Christian Donner, Charakter als Konteradmiral

*PLEASE DO CHECK THE PHOTOS BELOW!

Many thanks!