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Konteradmiral Erich Bey, Leader of Destroyers (10 May 1940-26 December 1943), 1943.
The decorations he is wearing are the following:
Around the neck: Knight's Cross of the Iron Cross
Ribbon bar (from left to right): Iron Cross (1914) 2nd Class with the 1939 Clasp; Hamburg Hanseatic Cross; The Honour Cross of the World War 1914/1918 with Swords; Silesian Eagle 2nd Class; Prussian Lifesaving Medal; Wehrmacht Long Service Award 2nd Class; Wehrmacht Long Service Award 4th Class; Sudetenland Medal and the Memel Medal.
Below the ribbon bar worn as badges: Iron Cross (1939) 1st Class and the Destroyer War Badge.
On his left sleeve: Narvik Shield1 -
10 hours ago, JohanH said:
According to the roll he received it on June 26th 1936 so I guess your date should be 30th June.
Thank you Johan!
So, if the Swedish award date is 26 June 1936, what do you think the date 30 June 1936 is? German approval date or something else? Presentation date?
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Kriegsmarine officers in Wilhelmshaven, taken sometime between 1 April and 3 October 1937. From left to right:
- Admiral Otto Schultze, Commanding Admiral of the Naval-Station of the North Sea (04 July 1935-03 October 1937)
- Generaladmiral Erich Raeder, Commander-in-Chief of the Kriegsmarine (01 June 1935-30 January 1943)
- Konteradmiral Otto von Schrader, Fortress-Commandant of Wilhelmshaven (27 September 1934-30 September 1937)0 -
Kriegsmarine officers in Wilhelmshaven, 1937. From left to right:
- Generaladmiral Erich Raeder, Commander-in-Chief of the Kriegsmarine (01 June 1935-30 January 1943)
- Admiral Otto Schultze, Commanding Admiral of the Naval-Station of the North Sea (04 July 1935-03 October 1937)
- Kapitän zur See Johannes Bachmann (behind Schultze), Chief of Staff of the Naval Station of the North Sea (26 August 1936-20 August 1940)0 -
On 29/06/2023 at 15:29, JohanH said:
Hello!
No problem, he got it on June 26th 1936.
Hello Johan,
Could you please check the Swedish rolls for Admiral Richard Foerster?
I believe he received the Grand Cross of the Royal Swedish Order of the Sword. I am unsure of the date written in his Personalakte.
It's either 30 June 1936 or 3 June 1936 because the second number in the day also looks like an "8" and the "3" is underlined. What do you think?
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On 10/12/2022 at 14:28, Kriegsmarine Admiral said:
Großadmiral Erich Raeder (2nd from the left), Konteradmiral z.V. Wilhelm Rhein (2nd from the right), Chief of the Office-Group for Research, Invention and Patenting, Naval-Weapons-Head-Office, OKM (01 September 1942-08 May 1945), and Admiral Günther Guse (1st from the right), Commanding Admiral of the Naval-Station of the Baltic Sea (21 September 1940-08 March 1943), late 1942, place unkown.
The Konteradmiral 2nd from the right in this photo is NOT Wilhelm Rhein. He is Konteradmiral Ernst Krafft, Coastal-Commander of the Eastern Baltic Sea and also Fortress-Commandant of Gotenhafen (27 June 1940-31 August 1942).
The photo was not taken in late 1942. Time and place are unknown. But it was possibly taken in Gotenhafen.0 -
Kriegsmarine officers and sailors and Heer officers attending a funeral somewhere in Denmark, 1940. It's possible the funeral in question was for the German soldiers and sailors killed during the Invasion of Denmark on 9 April 1940. If you know more, please comment.
1: Vizeadmiral Raul Mewis, Naval-Commander in Denmark (01 June 1940-31 January 1943)
2: Vizeadmiral Hermann Mootz, Commander of Security of the Baltic Sea (05 January 1939-13 October 1940)
Close-up of the officers below the photo. There is also an unknown Heer General between the two admirals.0 -
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On 26/05/2016 at 20:10, hucks216 said:
Hermann von Fischel was promoted to Kapitänleutnant in April 1916 and won his EK I on 2nd January 1917.
His previous promotion to Oberleutnant was in January 1911. He was the son of Admiral Max von Fischel.
I don't know what was your source for the award date of von Fischel's EK1, but the correct award date from his Personalakte is 22 September 1916.
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38 minutes ago, Antonio Prieto said:
1. I can't find information. I understand that it would only be granted from a single class and distinctive, possibly white (blanco)
Remember that the other yellow and blue distinctives are only from 1995, never before2. For the above, I think that only one class, but I do not know the category, distinctive or date
3. According to Archive Documents the red (rojo) Crosses were also granted, but they were generally with white Distinctive. In this document of the Avila Archive, there is no date of the Great Cross of the Naval Merit of Admiral Canaris (no consta)
Thank you very much once again.
For Otto Ciliax, I decided to keep only the Spanish Order of Naval Merit 3rd Class with White Decoration, with the Spanish award date of 21 August 1939, and the German approval date of 16 May 1940. Both dates are confirmed in his Personalakte I posted earlier.
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1 minute ago, Graf said:
Vert interesting collection of photos
Thank you.
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18 hours ago, Antonio Prieto said:
1. No
2. No. Only white or red
3. No name
I do not know the reason for the varied denominations of the decorations. For these years, and in the orders of military and naval merit there are different classes, but only two modalities that are the red badge and the white badge (there are no golden, yellow or others). The crosses are golden, enameled in red or white, except those of silver that are in this metal, without enamel
The plates are in classes
Grand Cruz, Gold with the upper rectangle of silver
Third, gold
Second, overwhelmed silverThank you for the explanation. I believe the confusion arises because of this Wikipedia article that states there were White, Red, Yellow and Blue decorations for the Order of Naval Merit: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cross_of_Naval_Merit
1. Do you think Ciliax then received the Order 3rd class with White and the Order 3rd class with Red (instead of Gold/Yellow) decorations on the same day?
2. Or do you think he only received the Order 3rd Class with White decoration on 21 August 1939?
3. Was the Red decoration given only during wartime? Since Spain was neutral, I pressume there were no concessions of the Red decoration during that time period (1939)?
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On 29/06/2023 at 16:34, Antonio Prieto said:
It's possible two concessions, the Grand Cross the 25.8.1939 Spanischer Orden "Gran Cruz ..." and other lower grade the 21.8.1939 "Spanischer Marinenverdienstkreuz" not Grosskreuz, perhaps 3rd class
Hello Antonio,
again I have the documents of Admiral Otto Ciliax that mention some Spanish awards.
As you can see in the first document below, it says that Ciliax was awarded the Spanish Order of Naval Merit 3rd Class in Gold on 21 August 1939 and also the Spanish Order of Naval Merit with White Decoration (class not specified, but presumably also 3rd class) also on 21 August 1939.
1. Is it possible he was awarded these two awards with different decorations (White and Gold/Yellow) on the same day?
2. Did the 1939 version of the Order of Naval Merit have the Gold/Yellow decoration? Because I only found that it came in White (Blanco) and Red (Rojo)?
3. If there was a Gold/Yellow decoration for the 1939 version, which is the correct name of the decoration: Gold (Oro) or Yellow (Amarillo)?
Thanks
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Kriegsmarine officers on board the Command Ship "Meteor", date unknown.
From left to right:
- Vizeadmiral Hans Stohwasser, Commander of Security of the Baltic Sea (14 October 1940-07 June 1944)
- Admiral Günther Guse, Commanding Admiral of the Naval-Station of the Baltic Sea (21 September 1940-08 March 1943)
- Unknown Korvettenkapitän, possibly the Commandant of the "Meteor"1 -
2 hours ago, JohanH said:
Hello!
No problem, he got it on June 26th 1936.
Thank you very much!
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8 minutes ago, Antonio Prieto said:
Then, there are two different dates listed, which I believe are the Spanish award dates: "25. 08. 1939" and "21. 08. 1939". Can you perhaps find out which one of these dates is the correct Spanish award date? At this time Marschall's position was the Commander of Armoured Ships (09 February 1938-20 October 1939).
No more information available. Nothing to report
Thank you Antonio.
But if you had to choose, which date is more probable in your opinion for his Grand Cross of the Spanish Order of Naval Merit with White Decoration?
I think "25. 08. 1939" because it is written first.
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Thank you for the help.
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1 hour ago, No one said:
Dear Gentlemen,
Do you speak of this : Medal, Republic of China, Order of Yon-Hwei, Class III | National Air and Space Museum
It's not an order, it's the "Army, Navy and Air Force Medal (translation of the Chinese name) or Medal of Armed Forces" :
Note: there is no such a rank as "Officer's Cross" for Chinese order, usually 9 classes (3x3).
If something else, write the name in Chinese or post a picture.
Yours sincerely,
No one
Hello,
After checking the topic you linked, it would seem that the order in question is not the "Army, Navy and Air Force Medal". I also found the Museum link you provided, but as explained on page 3 of the topic you linked, they mixed up the names of the awards.
I have this document that lists this award (Yun-Hwei Order) for a German admiral. It says he received the 4th class, that's why I asked if it is perhaps the Officer's Cross. I believe the order in question is the one in the second photo below (number 22). Is that right?
It says this is the Yon-Hwei Order III. Class (China).
I want to know more about this order and it's classes.
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Kriegsmarine officers on board the Command Ship "Meteor" somewhere on the Baltic coast, summer 1942.
On the left (in the foreground) is Konteradmiral Kurt Slevogt, 2nd Admiral of the Baltic Sea (04 December 1939-31 March 1943).
In the background (with his hands in the pockets) is Vizeadmiral Hans Stohwasser, Commander of Security of the Baltic Sea (14 October 1940-07 June 1944).1
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Wehrmacht officers gathered in front of a building, most likely in Kiel, 1936/1937.
1: Admiral Conrad Albrecht, Commanding Admiral of the Naval-Station of the Baltic Sea (04 July 1935-31 October 1938)
2: General der Flieger Konrad Zander, Commanding General and Commander in Air-District VI (Sea) (01 April 1935-31 January 1938)
3: Generalfeldmarschall Werner von Blomberg, Reichs War Minister and Commander-in-Chief of the Wehrmacht (01 June 1935-26 January 1938)