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    leigh kitchen

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    1. The badge has the flat topped Victorian Crown, so at face value was worn from 1881 (post Cardwell Reforms and the demise of numbers in favour of names) but NCOs of the Black Watch carried on wearing the old style badge with "42" in the centre instead of St Andrew for decades after. Kipling & King 497 shows the numbered badge with flat topped Victorian Crown, KK 656 the version with St Andrew in the centre & the post Victorian Kings Crown. John Gaylor refers to the badge with Victorian Crown and "42" as being worn prior to 1881, and that it continued to be worn post 1881 by Sergeants of the 1st Battalion, with a Kings Crown version appearing in 1926. KK & Gaylor state that the yellow metal was gilded. Is this badge multi ? part or are the different components sweated together? They?re always stated to be multi part badges held together with split pins, I have a Kings Crown St. Andrew centre version that has the different metals sweated together, I?ve always viewed it as a fake. I can?t tell from the photos whether I?d view the badge & glengary you are showing as genuine but then I?m lousy working from photo
    2. Not sure, but is he wearing the light blue suit with white shirt & red tie worn by convalescing wounded? Known as "Hospital Blues"
    3. RAF for RAF, SA for South African, Howard Williams conjectures whether Merchant Navy would be MN or BT for Board of Trade.
    4. I think that the wound badges issued during WWII were only in braid, not in metal, with a red braid version representing WWI or other pre - WWII wounds, a gold version WWII wounds.
    5. Yes it does - 2,577 of them.
    6. Also produced for the US 5th Army..........
    7. The Defence Medal - 3 years or 6 months or 3 months service qualified for it, depending on type and location of service, although service curtailed by death or injury n some circumstances automatically qualified, as did award of a gallantry medal or decoration. Excerpt from an appendix to conditions of award of 1946: Change in the Time Qualification for the Defence Medal. 9. The present time qualification is three years at home in a territory subject to enemy attacks or closely threatened, this being reduced to three months for mine and bomb disposal units of the Forces. The time qualification for military service overseas from or outside the country of residence is twelve months. This period of twelve months is now reduced to six for service in territories subjected to enemy air attack or closely threatened. The Defence Medal 10 (viii) Special awards states: Service in eligible categories brought to an end before the period of three years or twelve, six, or three months active service has been completed, either by death due to enemy action when on duty, or by injuries entitling the candidate to a Wound Stripe, completion, will be a qualification for the grant of the Defence Medal. Also, although the closing date for qualification for Forces personnel was 8/5/45, service overseas from, or outside the country of residence continued to qualify up until 2/9/45. Depending on service then, the time qualification was between 3/9/39 - 2/9/45, for 3 years, 6 months, 3 months or by death or Wound Stripe earning wound by enemy action. So a number of the examples given in this thread appear to qualify - eg, the wounded Sapper, the 2 air force fatalities. Other examples given in the thread may also qualify - I just have'nt got the capacity to address them yet - this stuff does my head in. I need to sit and scan all the info in the pamphlet & post it here.
    8. And the reverse... To Private Archibald Sutherland of The 72nd Highlanders.
    9. She was dirty when she was younger too..........
    10. I used a small pointed steel hair clip to remove a bad touch of verdigris from an old "brass" badge, it took time but worked without scratching.
    11. I'm fairly certain that these were no longer to be worn after 1922.
    12. 'Fraid not..........
    13. I have photos. letters, WWI pair of medals, death plaque etc of a 10th Bn Essex Regt man, a Private William Pearson. He was killed during an attack in October (I think) 1916, during the Battle of the Somme, when the Essex advanced along a sunken road between Guedecourt - Beuvencourt, attacking the Germans in Misty & Cloudy Trenches. A company of Essex got into the 2nd or 3rd line of trenches but were unsupported to a flank and cut off when the Germans counterattacked. I also have the medals etc to his 4 sons, one of whom had the same name and was a Cambs Regt fatality at Singapore in WWII. His wife remarried and had a son, I have his medals etc too.
    14. My uncle Sid Kitchen was pre-war / WWII 20th London, I met him for the first time in about 20 years or more a few months ago, I knew that he was looking for a 20th London white horse cap badge & posted ione to him a few days ago. He wore that badge initially, then the RE's, then the RA's, as the unit changed titles and roles within a decade or less in the 30's - 40's. I've photos of him badges up as RE & RA, but have to find out if he has one of himself wearing the horse.
    15. The Lancs Fus red & yellow Minden Day roses are still worn by the successor regiment RRF on MInden Day August 22nd. KOYLI used to wear a single white rose to commemorate MInden, I don't know what colour rose or roses are worn by the successor regiment LI. Interesting but infuriating thread, what with the total confusion between the Lancs Fusiliers & the Queens Last Resort, the introduction of alleged cowardice colours & why is "buff" a silly term? - it's a colour, and it's an accurate term. It does have other meanings too - perhaps the possible reference to nudity is why it's "silly"? The business about yellow being the colour for all Queens regiments or whatever - words fail me at this point............
    16. [attachmentid=62743]Instituted by the State Defence Council 14/7/20, awarded to members of the Armed Forces who were wounded in action, provided surgical treatm,ent was required. The ribbon is that of the Virtuti Militari but in miniature and worn horizontally, the blue is Garter Blue, but light blue was used by the Communist regime, the badge is worn above medal ribbons on the left breast. A varying amount of stars indicate the number of wounds, although all wounds sustained in the same action count as one. Introduced during the Polish - Soviet War, 1920, Until WWII no more than 3 stars were allowed to be worn, but then additional stars were allowed, initially being applied to a secnd ribbon placed above the first, but this was altered so that they were worn on the one ribbon, the ribbon lengthening accordingly. These two are Communist era badges, one of them being an enamelled miniature.
    17. In 3 different types variations? with some identification such as British, Canadian recipient etc available from the serial number without checking records, exact ID is also available from records.
    18. Worn vertically, lower left sleeve
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