1812 Overture

1 hour ago, saschaw said:

Despite this cross does not yet have an article at ehrenzeichen-orden.de, it certainly is not "fictional". The "König-Ludwig-Kreuz in Silber am Jubiläumsbande", often nick-named "Silbernes Erinnerungskreuz für die Mitglieder beider Kammern beim 100-jährigen Jubiläum der bayerischen Verfassung" by collectors, was instituted by Bavarian king Ludwig III on Mai 26, 1918 on occasion of the centenary of the constitution's proclamation.

 

It was awarded to the "Reichsräte der Krone Bayerns" and to the members of the Landtag, which roughly correspondend to Britain's "House of Lords" and "House of Commons" bicameral system. The Munich mint struck a total of 272 crosses in silver, of which 250 were awarded. The shown cross, however, looks rather like a 1980s counterfeit, and none of the rarely seen authentic ones. Beware!

 

See also Werner Bergmann: 26. Mai 1918 – Ludwig III. von Bayern stiftet das König Ludwig-Kreuz in Silber am Jubiläumsband. In: Orden-Militaria-Magazin Nr. 55 (August 1993). p. 14–17.

 

I just found this set of bars on eBay and they are very expensive!

Does any gentleman know this Bavarian medal? Is it fictional? I only found the Bavarian Hungarian Infantry Regiment Founding Medal, which looks similar to it. .

Gentlemen, allow me to show you the two medals I got by chance, the wedding medals for father and son. They are all very small! And there are no ribbons, can anyone tell me their ribbons? I think since they're on sale, they're bound to be in the medal bar, has anyone seen that? Any help is greatly appreciated!
The Brunswick wedding medal used to get lost in the mail, but I got it back a month after I filed my claim, baby!

I happened to see the Brunswick wedding medal in the bar at Emedal, is it right?

Allow me to call the Guelph family, the Hanoverian order experts help me   @BlackcowboyBS

Thank you for everyone's contributions and contributions to the construction of the forum!
I personally suggest that you can design some medals with website letters, which are awarded to members who have made special contributions to the forum or who have a long registration time. Of course, these must be purchased at their own expense, just like those designed by the Veterans Association in Weimar Germany. Like medals, you need to buy them yourself (I recommend entrusting them to be made in China, which will be cheaper). At the same time, set up a fundraising booth at some military, coin, and medal exhibitions, which can attract new members to join, and can also raise some extra. income

Hello Mr. Laurentius! Long time no see, how are you?

The ribbon also looks wrong. . .

I have one too, but the diameter is about 3.4 cm

我也有两个

I have a five-story glass cabinet. . The first floor houses the Vatican and Austro-Hungarian medal orders.
The second tier holds the medal order for the other three Confederate nations of WW1.
On the third floor there are some medals from Europe, Asia and Africa
The fourth floor holds the medal bar and the large order of crosses with boxes
On the fifth floor are my grandfather's relics, some medals from North Korea and China. .
Now I still think I should buy a 6-storey cabinet!

This is a Chinese cultural relic, I suggest returning it to me (evil laugh)

On 06/03/2019 at 20:00, Claudio said:

Just arrived... Rick (RIP) would have been proud of me!???

Hello dear sir, can you tell me, the winner of this medal bar was in two world wars but went without a service medal?

On 30/03/2022 at 22:55, saschaw said:

Here's another one, again on the trifold ribbon. I think we can now accept this ribbon as the "official" type, if we want to call something "official" here.

 

 

You're too kind, thank you! I was sick, possibly with Covid, a few weeks ago, and thus needed a small break. My next update is scheduled for this Friday, and hopefully everything will work this time... 

 

 

Oh! Oh my god! Unbelievable, I really hope you get well soon

On 28/03/2022 at 05:55, saschaw said:

Here's another one that sold recently on German ebay, but this yellow and black ribbon is certainly not the right one. I still think "yours" is probably the proper ribbon, as I think I've seen it several times before.

 

 

Thanks, I also found a bar with this medal on the Vitz website. . PS, off topic, I haven't seen your website updated for a long time, your website can not only buy things but also learn some knowledge, it's great

Great collection, keep it up

On 18/02/2022 at 20:18, JapanX said:

Irgendwo in der Nähe "Hergestellt in Italien" ?

I really don't get it, I've made it very clear, but why do they think it has something to do with Italy? what do you say？

Since you are a German living in China, you must know Baidu, right? I just use simplified characters to convert traditional characters, and then put the results obtained by Baidu search. Please see this link:

https://zhidao.baidu.com/question/268056776.html

https://www.dancihu.com/rihan/i/ishoutouroku74938.htm

I think you're a stubborn German. . No wonder the Chinese think Germans are stereotyped, now I feel it too

So, I want to say again, this has nothing to do with Italy. Not everything that contains the word "意" has anything to do with Italy

On 29/01/2022 at 17:10, v.Perlet said:

The character indicates both, made in Italy or produced for Italy

 

My personal guess, Made in Italia

 

Regards

v.Perlet

實用新案登錄

第八八六四號

意匠登錄

My friend, I checked it out. The traditional Chinese character "Yijiang Login" is actually Japanese, and its Chinese meaning is: Pattern Registration. The number above is the registration number: No. 8864. So it's not Italian. In addition, modern Chinese is read from left to right, in the past it was from right to left. But I forget how Japan sees it. So it's made in Japan

The order you sent is great! (Fortunately Germany did not participate in the Korean War, otherwise I guess your father-in-law would not have allowed you to marry his daughter, haha) I don't know much about the price of the Independence Medal, but I personally feel that 500 euros is a normal price. Their prices have all increased since the medal order after China banned trading for 49 years. It's really interesting, the Germans love to collect Chinese medals. And as a Chinese, I like German orders. . communicate frequently

Although not a period of Spanish military order。。

Usually, when there are few medals, the medals can be hung on the clothes according to the above figure

Of course, in order to be more convenient, I once tried to make a medal bar metal bar myself

1 hour ago, v.Perlet said:

Hello 1812 Overture,

 

don't worry you English is just fine.

As for JapanX - I don't believe he is angry at you at all - i assume that he was rather hitting on me with sarcasm.

 

Anyway as I mentioned in my first post to you - I don't feel offended at all. especially not if discussions or voicing of different opinions is carried forward in an appropriate manner.

 

The photo you posted on this other thread is actually very interesting, since it is a very, rare photo in my opinion that shows what original  commemorative veterans medals looks like - thanks!

 

My grandfather is still going strong with his - 97 - due to his rank and involvement history during the Korean war he also received certain higher war orders. 

 

Regards

Andreas

your grandfather? Chinese? Then why don't we communicate in Chinese?

8 hours ago, v.Perlet said:

Hello 1812 Overture,

 

sorry if my previous post sounds off as a bit of a harsh reply.

 

But sometimes I really get annoyed about constant posting and commenting about obvious fakes. The problem resulting from this, is that the real war awards/orders are not sufficiently researched and known to us in the West.

 

Due to this constant hopping up and down on obvious fakes - the general thought that anything that doesn't look like rubbish must be genuine has taken hold. Which in turn results in collectors paying big $ for very well made FAKES. I do not intend to destroy/hurt someones believe in having payed big $ for a "genuine" medal/order - but sadly having purchased exactly such fakes - selling for US$1000 -10,000 in both China and the West. So I will refrain from contacting or showing e.g. a Forum member what a "real" war Order looks like and how to recognize it.

 

But I will try to forward my opinion or concern in regards to those who post PRC war medals/orders that they intend to purchase and as such trying to point out the details that unmask a high quality, big $, fake. - due to my contacts and research I have knowledge about certain medals/awards - which however does presently not encompass every single war award or commemorative veterans award.

 

And try to keep in mind that just because a big$ fake comes in a "genuine" looking medal case has no bearing on the genuineness of the medal/order it beholds. faking a case or box is about the easiest thing one can do in this "Trade of Fakes".

 

Also one needs to be aware that persons that make/forge war-awards "exactly" as a genuine award - face serious reprisals by the Chinese government, then those who "imitate the looks" of medals/awards. (I assure you, that one doesn't want to get caught faking anything in China that is government supervised or military related - especially not since Xi Jinping came to power). So do not think of Mainland China being the prime source or manufacturer of "genuine looking" high-class fakes. - just my 5 cents.

 

Regards

v.Perlet

Please flip through this link with some pictures I posted. My grandfather, who fought in the Korean War, died in November 2020 at age 94

My English is very poor, I can only rely on the translation to roughly understand what you mean. I feel that Mr. X in Japan is already angry?