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A special case for a Hanseatenkreuz Bremen

A special case for a Hanseatenkreuz Hamburg

Uwe

Thanks Antonio

Uwe

Hi,

wonderful bars!

To the bar with the "Honorary Medal for Charitable Assistance/Erepenning voor Menslievend Hulpbetoon " in first place: "Unfortunately I forgot to write down his name."

Usually on the reverse of the original (high ranked) medal is engraved the name of the recipient!

Uwe

And this one?

Uwe

Hi,

there are different explanations.

You can find "Granatwiese" as a street name in Germany, may be with a historical base.

And you can find "Granatwiese" in WW I in France in different places, as German name for fields with many shell craters.

The picture is out of a book: Heinrich Magnus Ivens »Meine liebe kleine Frau«

Uwe

This is a complete set:

Uwe

I found two explanations for "Krankenwärter" in the internet:

The hospital is a place where people who have been trained in a hospital and examined by the district physician can go to. In the military, since 1863, 26 nurses have been trained annually for each army corps in larger hospitals from among the enlisted men who have served for a year, in order to provide the field hospitals with personnel fully familiar with the servicing and care of the sick.

"Nurses" were less well trained than the female nurses because they were more "for the rough" (carrying patients, holding uncooperative patients, etc.).

Translated with www.DeepL.com/Translator (free version)

May be only temporary:

Luftwaffenhelferinnen

Uwe

Hi,

I bought this (Oldenburger Kameradenbund) for 33 € a few months ago:

Uwe

Hi Marcus,

"So if this is post WW2, I am assuming that this may be a 1957 award?"

This has absolutely nothing to do with the German law from 1957 and the 1957er decorations (1957 award).

1957er decorations are allowed decorations of the Third Reich in a changed design, based on the law from 1957.

The name of the Oldenburger organization changed in the 60s from "Oldenburger Kriegerbund e.V." to "Oldenburger Kameradenbund e.V.". And yes, the badges and crosses with the inscription "Kameradenbund" are still awarded today.

1873 Oldenburger Kriegerbund

~1900 Oldenburger Landeskriegerverband

? Oldenburger Kriegerbund e.V.

60s Oldenburger Kameradenbund e.V.

Uwe

OK, and I say once more, that it is the SA-Wehrabzeichen.

Wikipedia: "On 15 February 1935, Hitler decreed that the badge be officially recognized. It was thereafter issued in three grades (bronze, silver, and gold). No longer was the physical fitness badge to be awarded only to SA members."

Please see the picture, and compare it with a Reiterabzeichen.

Hi,

I say, that it is a SA-Sportabzeichen (SA-Wehrabzeichen)

Uwe

Sascha, "... the swords are always gilt".

I know that, but still it is very hard to say. The color of my medal and its swords are identical.

Uwe

It was the goose of the Infanterie-Regiment „Alt-Württemberg“ (3. Württembergisches) Nr. 121, the "Ulmer Regimentsgans". The goose died on January 7, 1853.

Uwe

It is really hard to differentiate the models. Here are pictures of my medal, scanned and photographed. is it lightly gold plated or is the silver tarnished?

Uwe

Yes, ... Bewährung auch im feindliche Feuer

Uwe

Hi Demir,

I can only show you the two medals in my collection, in my opinion both are from St&L. Without E.S. is a later made version?

Weight with E.S. = 21,3g

Weight without E.S. = 16,6g

Uwe

Demir,

I don't think, that this is the mark of a producer, Schmidthäussler or Schneider, because I think, that the producer of this medal is Steinhauer & Lück.

ES or E.S. can stand for a seller.

Uwe

Gordon,

Urkundenmappe or short Mappe

KR

Uwe

lew,

this General der Infanterie had other Turkish decorations: Order of Osmania 1. class and the Imtiyaz medals in gold and silver with swords in the original case.

Once more, in my opinion and as I can see, there was nothing changed or added later.

Believe it or leave it.

Demir,

It is my firm conviction, that the B.B.&Co made TWM must be assigned to the first category (1. Official).

Uwe

I am very sure that this General der Infanterie received his TWM in this envelope. In the complete stock there are exclusively only the awards given to him, nothing has been added to it, neither then nor now.

Uwe

Not much, because such items exist in large amounts.

What count here is a named document with an original signature. Important DDR documents very often have  only faksimile signatures.

You can find such a folder with a matching document e.g. for less than 10 Euro.

Here is a document, that could fit to your folder. With a faksimile signature as always, for 25 or 40 years of membership (they counted the years before the DDR in communist or socialist organizations).

I have 40 of these documents in my collection, from 25 years up to 70 years, 20 of them with SED folder, no original signature.

The blank sheets are nearly worthless, only cents.

Uwe

With "map" is meant the red folder with the SED emblem.

Uwe

Hi Jimmbo,

I think, that the map and the blank sheet(s) do not necessarily belong together.

The map is normally for party (SED) documents, for instance 25 or more years membership in the SED, and also for several other SED documents.

The blank sheet was used for many different purposes, e.g. sports certificates.

Uwe

Hi Simius Rex:

"Classifying something as a copy or a replica is the kiss of death. To us, it is the same thing as saying "fake.""

And that is in my opinion complete nonsense. Please have a look in all English dictionaries, and one finds the same distinction there as in the German language:
Fake, produced to be offered as an original in order to deceive.
Copy, produced with identifiable differences from the originals in order to serve as a replacement.

The incorrect use of the word "copy" of some collectors does not change the real meaning.

Hi lew,

"... if any foreign made TWMs were ordered and handed out by the Turkish and foreign governments, they should be considered official award TWMs."

That is also my opinion, see my earlier comment: "For me, this clearly includes the enameled medals from B.B.&Co, handed out to several German soldiers, before the end of the war."

This is the original set für a very high decorated Prussian General (PlM mit Eichenlaub, Schwarzer Adlerorden, Verdienstorden der Preußischen Krone mit Schwertern, and many other highest decorations):

Uwe