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Hi,

it is very hard to explain it in English

It is a badge of an old German Artiste's association, founded in Hamburg, with several sections in Germany and, later, in Switzerland:

Artisten-Verein Sicher wie Jold. S.w.J.

later in Switzerland: Internationaler Artisten- und Musiker-Verband Sicher wie Jold.

"Sicher wie Jold" was a saying which served in the confirmation of an action, like "Everything is okay".

Time frame for this badge 1893 - 1934.

Regards

Uwe

I beg your pardon for my bad English

Kevin in Deva

for your information, the 6. edition 2006 is in colour, and some more badges were illustrated.

Regards

Uwe

And that is a part of the "Anlage", nearly 100 pictures of the allowed (and changed in the design) orders and decorations:

Only these documented peaces in the "Anlage" are original 57 versions

Regards

Uwe

Hi,

"Nimmergut/Feder/von der Heyde, Deutsche Orden und Ehrenzeichen" is not the correct source, but the answer from Mark is correct.

The (only) correct source is (I'm sorry, it is only a bad copy):

Grenztruppen der DDR, Orden, Preise, Ehrentitel, Medaillen, Abzeichen

Milit?rverlag der DDR (VEB) Berlin, 1. Edition 1982

Envelope with 22 cards

With 1 example:

Regards

Uwe

Hi Nick,

these pins are from the

Verband Deutscher Soldaten VDS

a post WWII organization of veterans

Please look here for examples:

http://www.german-militaria.de/katalog/d940016_3.htm

Regards

Uwe

Nationale Volksarmee, Ehrentitel, Orden, Medaillen, Preise, Abzeichen

Milit?rverlag der DDR (VEB) Berlin, 1. Edition 1980

Envelope with 22 cards

With 1 example:

Regards

Uwe

Hi Tony,

thank you very much for this information

"Lithuanian Vycio Kryziaus (Vycio Cross) 5 th Class"

I thought, that it is the 3rd class, the lowest?

Regards

Uwe

Hi Dan,

you have to look for some more details, not only the pin.

For example:

1 without the national coat of arms, reverse numbered

2 with the national coat of arms

3 with the national coat of arms, a small ring added

4 unhyphenated

5 hyphenated

The medal in the center (post 149/150) is matching to your document from 1962.

Look at your book: "Klaus H. Feder, Uta Feder, Auszeichnungen der Nationalen Volksarmee", page 91 - 94.

Regards

Uwe

Hi Dan,

Post 125: "I now have the Urkunde to go with this medal:"

I'm sorry, that is not correct.

The Urkunde is from 1962, the medal is from 1977 -1986 (34,7mm 1977-1983, 35mm from 1984 -1986)

Looking at "Bartel, DDR-Spezialkatalog 1949-1990 Band I, Staatliche Auszeichnungen", you can find for "Treue Dienste NVA in Bronze" 6 different versions of the medal.

That is a medal from 1962:

Regards

Uwe

Hi Grant,

don't worry, be happy

In my collection of Banner der Arbeit, unnumbered and numbered, I found 8 different cases.

Different in the dimensions, the interior, the weight and the colour (black and red, red in variations).

Regards

Uwe

Hi,

" ...look at the significant detail of the swordgrip....specific tool mark (all "900" pieces)..."

Yes it is, on both swordgrips!

Regards

Uwe

Nationale Volksarmee, Uniformen 1956 bis 1985, Milit?rverlag der DDR (VEB) Berlin, 1. Edition 1985

Envelope with 22 cards

With 1 example :

Uwe

Frank Bartel, DDR-Spezialkatalog I, 1. edition 1990, 128 pages

Frank Bartel, DDR-Spezialkatalog II, 1. edition 1991, 128 pages

Frank Bartel, DDR-Spezialkatalog III, 1. edition 1991, 160 pages

Frank Bartel, DDR-Spezialkatalog IV, 1. edition 1993, 160 pages

Regards

Uwe

Haarcke, H?sken, Deutschland-Katalog DDR, 1. edition 1990, 114 pages

Hi Paul,

post 4: "A very nice DDR(1977) published book"

I do not believe that it is published in 1977.

That is the book cover of the second edition 1983.

The first edition is from 1980:

Regards

Uwe

And here is a DSA mini in Bronze

Regards

Uwe

Hi David,

no problem.

Bronze, Silber and Gold are identical

Hi Dan,

"Is that device on the bottom normal?"

Yes, it is.

Here are 3 of the 4 variant pieces, awarded 1964 - 1985. Missing is the second; at the reverse a needle, but without the pins.

Regards

Uwe

Hi Chris,

I am a simply structured German, and I do not understand what Darrell with his statements would like to express.

The badge ist post WWII, but I cannot date it. It could have been produced in the period from 1948 to 1952, may be still later. They were still sold many years later.

I beg your pardon for my bad English.

Regards

Uwe

Hi Andy,

are you sure, that you are talking (writing) about the same badge with DSA?

1966 it must be a DSB sports badge on the document, and not a DSA.

Regards

Uwe

3. Uniformen der bewaffneten Kr?fte der Warschauer-Pakt-Staaten und Jugoslawiens

Stand 1988

about 200 pages! DDR 33 pages.

Example:

Regards

Uwe

2. Auszeichnungen der Warschauer-Pakt-Staaten

Band 3 (Teil 4) Auszeichnungen der Volksrepublik Polen

Stand 1988

about 170 pages

Example:

Hi,

there are only three "books" (folders with single sheets) in my collection:

1. Auszeichnungen der Warschauer-Pakt-Staaten

Band 1 (Teil 1) Auszeichnungen der Deutschen Demokratischen Republik

Stand: 1985

about 400 pages!

Example:

Hi,

here are some seldom to be seen sports badges with DSA (Deutsches Sportabzeichen), in Bronze, Silber and Gold.

Awarded 1948 - 1952 in North Rhein-Westphalia, Schleswig-Holstein (1949) and Hamburg (1949).

Total awards 15,682. I don't know the figures for Silber and Gold, but the proportional distribution is estimated bronze 93%, silver 5% and gold 2%.

Marked St. & L. Ges.Gesch.

Regards

Uwe