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Thanks for sharing, I did not have this auction at sight. What a beautiful piece. The craftmanship done in absolute perfection here.
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I pretty sure it is "Lina Schultheiß"
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Some things I found interesting on the pictures of Ernst August:
The gartered star - I remember his MMThO being sold at Thies, does anyone know something about this star?
What is this decoration - I don't think I have seen it before
I really like the ribbon bar he's wearing - especially the miniature devices on it, there seems to be a small Maria Therese cross to be on the first ribbon
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Very nice ... I saw some british museum pieces of medals with all battle clasps ... but never a german one (or "the" german one, as I believe there isn't any german medal with a comparable number of clasps )
this clasp thing seems to be a british thing, any information about its origins? Is it known if the 1870-71 medal was inspired by the british medal system?
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On this website are some illustrations that might help...
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Thanks a lot for your effort. I am going to make a better scan soon.
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There are some rare CDVs or cabinet cards that can reach very high prices. I wondered if there are any evidences that such photos are being faked? I don't mean wrong descriptions or maybe wrong text on the backside, but completely new made fakes.
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If you have only the highest classes what should you wear on your medal bar? ... I don't know how common it was (is?) in the UK to wear lower classes. George V did it as one can see in this thread discussed at the moment in the british section:
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Thanks for Your replies and book recommendation... I remember seeing some photographs of veterans from the grand armée in uniform but not a single german one (in uniform)
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I thought it could be a napoleonic veteran on a gatharing in 1851 (year written on backside)... the second picture you posted is easier to make out as an reenactor. The genuine photo is taken later and shows a contemporary Leib Husar (not an old veteran or reenactor).
Are there any known definitely genuine pictures of napoleonic veterans wearing their old uniforms... ?
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anyone else observed this ebay offer? Incredible details in it...
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Very interesting read, thanks for sharing!
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I am 95% sure it is "Großpapa",
On 14/08/2020 at 04:13, The Prussian said:It´s a shame, that the "young" germans like me (52) didn´t learn the old scripts in school...
I am in my twenties and feel the same, I had to learn it myself...would be nice if at least it would be learned during art class.
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The "o" can be open on top if not done neatly
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Well written,
with saying the system is complicated, i did not mean it is anyhow "better" than any other one. I rather wanted to point out it is more inconsistent, with more irregularities.
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Additionally to mention: Reichsfreiherr was never an official title. It was just used, as stated above, by houses lifted into the Freiherrenstand during the HRR, cause it was more prestigious than a later title. Officially they are also just Freiherrn.
You can also use the term Reichsfreiherrn when you talk about the group of Freiherrn which held a reichsunmittelbares (imperial immediate) territory (analog to Reichsfürsten, Reichsgrafen and Reichsritter) if you wish to distinguish them from the immediate imperial knights without the title Freiherr.
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I think fürstliche Häuser (princely houses) with "princes" as family members, despite the head are only those houses which held a "reichsunmittelbares" territory in the holy roman empire (which was more or less a sovereign state with only the emperor above him, who had only limited power over these territories)or stayed sovereign (Fürst von Lippe etc.). I think later created titular "Fürsten" (Britain for example has despite the prince of wales (?), Duchy of Cornwall(?) only titular titles?) aren't existing with family descendent as princes. I would be happy to hear of a counter example.
The german / holy roman rank system is very very complicated. I think you have to spend very much time into it to understand every facette. There were also the "Reichsritter" (imperial knights) and even Reichsdörfer (imperial villages) with super small semi-sovereign territories.
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thanks for all Your input
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Maybe the painter didn't bother about details too much, or made the painting based on a photograph and didn't know the colours. I think we can't assume every painter was a uniform expert.
It's a nice, decorative painting after all.
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I recently acquired this nice picture of a MEZ 2nd class recipient. He appears to be a leutnant, oberleutnant or hauptmann. I wasn't able to read what's on the epauletts. It was taken in Frankfurt an der Oder.
He's wearing:
- MEZ 2nd class
- Red Eagle order 4th class (maybe 3rd)
- crown order 3rd class (maybe 4th)
- ? long service maybe?
- ???
- 1866 medal ???
- ???
- centenary
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very interesting - thanks for sharing!
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Wow, looks incredible....
Do you know the year of the first two pictures?
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Lt. von Heider
in Germany: Imperial: Rick (Research) Lundstrom Forum for Documentation and Photographs
Posted · Edited by Utgardloki
I have this photograph in my collection.
On the Backside I read: "Lt. Ferd. v Heider" (Leutnant Ferdinand von Heider)
The dealer I bought in from assigned it to Feldartillerie-Regiment „König Karl“ (1. Württembergisches) Nr. 13
In the 1909 ranklist I found a v. Heider in this regiment:
(Side question: What do those letters beside the dates mean?)
In the 1914 ranklist it can be seen he transferred to the Lehr-Regiment of the Feldartellerie-Schießschule
In the Ehrenrangliste from 1926 one can read he was later at Generalstab des OK der Heeresgruppe Gallwitz and ended the war as Hauptmann außer Dienst?
I found also another v. Heider in the FAR Nr. 29 who might have been his brother?
Is there any more info that can be found out? I wonder what awards he received during the war and what he did later and if he maybe was reactivated in WW2?