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Adj Oblt. Gert von Pflugradt of Oldenburg IR 91

On 07/01/2020 at 13:16, Mattyboy said:

Here is an unknown officer from IR 91

Paratrooped, Welcome to the form, and beautiful bar, one critique however, the Ehrenlegion medal is actually supposed to be the Kreigverdeinstkreuz most likely without swords as evident by the missing swords on the Ehrenkreuz 1914/18. 

To your question, it is most certainly not doctored up. As you may well know, the years fighting in the war counted double for service in the army. Second, the 2ed class version of the Bavarian Long service cross is for 24 years, so having both the 12 and 9 year long service awards is totally normal.

Thank you for all the great info. I have a further question to ask. On some rare ribbon bars with an Awaloff Kreuz, the award not actually on the medal bar, so is it impossible to determine the class of cross that was awarded based off of the ribbon bar? From what I know, there was a neck, breast and suspended version of the Awaloff Kreuz, did the ribbon on the ribbon bar signify any one of those classes?

Any help is appreciated, 

Thanks

On 09/04/2021 at 05:56, laurentius said:

Ribbon three looks to me as a Schlesissches Bewährungsabzeichen (silesian eagle) second class and the sixth, as Simi already stated, the Baltenkreuz second class.

 

Kind regards, Laurentius

Laurentius, I would argue that that ribbon is for the 1936 Deutches Olympiaehrenzeichen. Although the the ribbons aren’t in focus on the ribbon, the center of the third ribbon would’ve been far lighter and the edges far darker, as yellow ribbons go, per Zentarmedaillie. 
Regards

2 hours ago, JohanH said:

I don't believe medal 5 is the Swedish Pro Patria medal, it would not make sense since it's a civilian medal awarded for long and faithful service. The Pro Patria medal also has the kings profile on the front and the ribbon is black with yellow edges, which this medal don't seem to have. 

 

I rather believe it's the Swedish medal of the Sword (Svärdsmedaljen) which was awarded to military personnel. Kaiser Wilhelm II received a special gold version in 1875. It was the only gold medal ever awarded. 

 

 

Yes! Thank you, I knew I was in the ballpark with the medal being Swedish, could the next one be possibly ottoman or have some North African connection?

Hi all, 

I'm wondering if some of Prinz Adalbert's awards could be identified 

So far, from what I can gather his awards are: 

Schwartzer Adler Orden Burststern

Roter Adler Orden - Gross Kreuz 

 

Preußen Königlicher Hausorden von Hohenzollern Kette der Großkomture

 

Ordenschnalle: 

 

1. Roter Adler Orden 3. Klasse mit Krone 

 

2. Kronen Orden 3. Klasse 

 

3. Goldene Erinnerungsmedaille an Fürst Carl Anton

 

3/4. 1897 Zentarmedaille
 

4. China Denkmunze

 

5. Schweden Pro Patria Medaille?

 

6. ?

 

The rest are unknown

 

 

 

Preußen Erinnerungszeichen zur Silbernen Hochzeit auf SAO-Band

 

 

Do you mean this one?

Hi all, 

Could I have some opinions regarding the authenticity of this Awaloff Kreuz, the dealer claims its original but cannot guarantee its authenticity. Thanks! 

Hello all, I came across this photo and I am curious to know who the gentleman on the far left is, what his medals are and a possible ID, second, I am trying to decipher the medals on the Chinese diplomat to the right of him.

From my guessing:

1. Kronen-Orden 4 klasse?

2. Annen-Orden Ritterkreuz?

3. Possibly a Belgian order?

4. Order of Takovo ?

Any help is appreciated, 

Thanks!

Hello, 

This example of the PFL ehrenkreuz leads me to conclude the authenticity of the example in my collection, however I still would like some other eyes  on this topic.

Thanks!

I think only 21 of these were ever awarded 

1870/71 Oldenburg erinnerungs medaille

Well, the observe seems to be that of the silesian eagle, and the city of Breslau being engraved on the back would confirm that as its place or origin. It was clearly a pin back, if you look closely at the reverse, you can start to notice a difference in texture in the middle, this is probably where the original pin was set, but, as the grey marks prove, it was later replaced with a solder and a pin, thus obscuring some of the engraving. The A. K... is probably the owners name, and the Wehr. leads me to believe that this is a second world war pin, but I could be wrong. The 6 could possibly be his membership number, or number of badge, but "Truppen fur sorge" is probably a veterans care, or advocacy group. Most likely it is just one of the numerous veteran associations that were created after the war, but this one with a particular focus on medical or some other form of veteran care.

I hope I was atleaste of some help.

Well, I seemed to have answered my own inquiry, it is in fact Lt. Gert von Pflugradt, and his awards: 
EK 1914 I,II Klasse

HOHX 

OV2 mit krone und schwertern

FAK I, II Klasse

BH

ÖM3K

Could it be v. Hohnhorst’s adjutant? Oberleutnant Pflugradt? Perhaps his name be apart of the Hohenzollern haus orden index?

Although I'm not sure of his name, his name should be in this book as it lists all of the officers of IR 91 that severed from 1917-1918. This should also have his name somewhere: WLB online book

Nr. 2 is the Roter Adler Orden II klasse, Nr. 3 is Orden von Isabella der Katholikin komtur kreuz and the medal on the bar is the Kingdom of Hawaii's Royal Order of Kalākaua I companions cross

Can anyone identify this  Oldenburg officer with a HOHX, and his possible other awards?

Opinions? I had purchased this from a reliable seller, however I'm a little concerned about it's authenticity, in particular the top ring and the the swords. Thanks!

Oldenburg dienstauszeichnung gendarmerie medaille fur 9 jahre

15 hours ago, Utgardloki said:

I somehow have the feeling that especially in the first few months of the war, especially many officers died. Is this a misconception by me or can it be proven?

This is very true. For a number of reasons, have it be the oil cloth hat, but the prevalent reason was due to the large trapezoidal ribbon bars the officers were known to wear at the front, thus distinguishing them from the average soldier for an enemy sniper, thus the change to the small 15mm ribbon-ribbon bars  

Here’s List and other officers of the RIR 16?wearing it as well 

A miniatur vor dem feinde spange for a feldspange and the paper envelope of the Friedrich August kreuz II klasse

It’s clearly displaying some familial arms, and I have a couple of theories: 

First, the two brass bands soldered or welded to the sides could have been a means of displaying said arms on two rods and was eventually converted to a pin back.

Another thought is that it’s could be a latch to a book, chest, or some other object, that was then removed?

Perhaps IDing the family in which the arms belong, although extremely improbable of a positive ID, may help. 
 

The second ribbon is the Baden verdienst medaille. Due to the award of the baden medal it would make sense that he would have been awarded the 1914 EK II klasse but I have yet to find any evidence of this so it is very likely that he was awarded the KVK. Further, based off the picture, the 4th ribbon looks like 1936 olympic erinnerungs medaille, but I could very well be wrong.